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Thread: As I've shown many times...Most "pro-lifers" can be tripped up by simple questions

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    As I've shown many times...Most "pro-lifers" can be tripped up by simple questions

    As I've noted before, with simple direct questions, most "pro-lifers" (especially the men) can be easily shown to be-


    1. Dishonest or disengenuous or even cowardly.....by refusing to answer them or dodging the questions, or eventually dodging them.

    2. Contradictory.....by giving contradictory answers to the questions.

    or 3. a misogynist/Authoritarian/"American Taliban"



    Remember, it's 1, 2, or 3 (maybe a combo even).


    Any "pro-lifer" want to try my challenge and see if you can dispute it? (especially #1?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmanmcfly View Post
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    Cool.....thanks.

    First question-


    In your view, is abortion, at any state of gestation, the same as "murder" (ethically/morally).

    (Same as pre-meditated homicide.....going out, buying a gun, laying in wait for someone, deliberately shooting them until they are dead....you get the idea)

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    I have a couple questions for the pro-abortion right crowd that similarly always go unanswered or are disingenuously deflected:

    Can a right that is only recognized to exist in the "penumbras and emanations" of the rights enumerated in the Bill of Rights be more vital, more respected and more important than one of the rights that is actually enumerated in the Bill of Rights?

    Can a liberal's hostility, denigration and desire for elimination of a right that is actually enumerated in the Bill of Rights threaten the very theory by which the right to privacy was recognized and deemed protected (and thus threaten the recognition and protection of the derivative rights to abortion, contraception and LGBTQ rights)?
    Last edited by Abatis; 21st April 2017 at 06:40 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GordonGecko View Post
    Cool.....thanks.

    First question-


    In your view, is abortion, at any state of gestation, the same as "murder" (ethically/morally).

    (Same as pre-meditated homicide.....going out, buying a gun, laying in wait for someone, deliberately shooting them until they are dead....you get the idea)
    OK, it's clear that I'm not pro-life enough...

    It's somewhat more complex. As a base response, yes, it is ending a life, and should be given that level of weighting of a decision... otoh, the women that are considering abortion as a first choice, do you really want them raising the next generation?

    I did mainly want to see the direction you would go, but even though in an idealized sense I'm pro-life, as things get messy, the choice is a better option... especially when you get to those women that think of pregnancy on the same vein as an std.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GordonGecko View Post
    Cool.....thanks.

    First question-


    In your view, is abortion, at any state of gestation, the same as "murder" (ethically/morally).

    (Same as pre-meditated homicide.....going out, buying a gun, laying in wait for someone, deliberately shooting them until they are dead....you get the idea)
    Yes, in my view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    Yes, in my view.
    Do you also consider it murder when a husband beats his wife to the point of miscarrying?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemonade View Post
    Do you also consider it murder when a husband beats his wife to the point of miscarrying?
    Do you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemonade View Post
    Do you also consider it murder when a husband beats his wife to the point of miscarrying?
    Im pro choice, but this is a slippery slope. Did this man deliberately kill his child? Did he even know this women is pregnant? Murder is never an automatic guilty verdict.

    Next.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puzzling Evidence View Post
    Im pro choice, but this is a slippery slope. Did this man deliberately kill his child? Did he even know this women is pregnant? Murder is never an automatic guilty verdict.

    Next.
    I am pro choice too. The poster I had quoted did say that he viewed abortion as murder, so I wanted to know what he thought about when a male possibly ended a pregnancy. You are right it would be difficult to determine if the father intended to end the pregnancy, but does that make it not worth it to discuss the possibility?

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