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    Quote Originally Posted by PACE View Post
    Its wrong to do this.
    Dumbass is only trying to bribe them back to peace talks. He thinks money matters to Palestine and he wrongly thinks Palestinians will get over Trump recognizing Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. If you noticed, when Trump screws up he threatens to remove funding to shut up critics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PACE View Post
    Tell me something Djinn. What do you think the lasting impression was on those girls? What experience DID they take away from That? Sames goes for the little baby in the bomb belt. If he's even alive today. To what end do adults indoctrinate children? What is the long term goal?
    Are you talking about the lasting impression of being permitted to write messages to Nasrallah on the ordinance heads? Or the lasting impression of being forced into a school basement for days, to avoid being shelled by Nasrallah's Hezbollah military? Do not forget that this particular conflict was started by Nasrallah.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Okay. What is your point, sir? I still do not want my tax dollars to be spent on blood money.
    Look at my post13 where I mentioned what could be the issue for the USA cutting aid to Palestinians..... To refer like you do to blood money is probably awkward and since other countries provide also foreign aid to the Palestinians, the US will loose a political lever and the first consequence is already present. The US cannot be considered as a honest broker when it comes to the Israeli Palestinian struggle. So how can you have influence if you are no more a partner for both sides ? You can also refer to some of the posts here, where information is available on how the money given had to go through the Israeli adminsitration before being handed over to the Palestinians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    Are you talking about the lasting impression of being permitted to write messages to Nasrallah on the ordinance heads? Or the lasting impression of being forced into a school basement for days, to avoid being shelled by Nasrallah's Hezbollah military? Do not forget that this particular conflict was started by Nasrallah.
    Neither side has clean hands and our problem is that under Trump we support one side and not both if Trump has his way. No country has committed to doing that. Israel is not an innocent bystander in turning this into dog eat dog as they bomb and build in Palestinian areas. They have turned Palestine into a hot mess. Palestine can't join the global community as they are all but flattened by Israel. This has to stop and Trump causing the problem to become even worse by declaring Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and now threatening Palestine to cut off funding if they don't come to the table is as na´ve as it gets.

    China and Russia are the only ones who gain by this bumbling administration who is too stupid to realize how they are shrinking the US by losing influence. No one should look at this through the rhetoric of the US as we are currently going against the world, not just Palestine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    Are you talking about the lasting impression of being permitted to write messages to Nasrallah on the ordinance heads? Or the lasting impression of being forced into a school basement for days, to avoid being shelled by Nasrallah's Hezbollah military? Do not forget that this particular conflict was started by Nasrallah.
    So rising above threats in order to protect the children is no longer useful? I submit Golda Meirs words

    It is not that you kill our children it is that you force us to kill yours.
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    @Madeline

    I have respected your pro-Israel bias, but, who the hell are you to deny an entire people their rightful name?

    "Palestinians" in marks?

    They are a nation, they live there, it's their fucking land. Deal with it.
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    This reminds me of the quote by Golda Meir.
    "Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us."
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    @Madeline

    I have respected your pro-Israel bias, but, who the hell are you to deny an entire people their rightful name?

    "Palestinians" in marks?

    They are a nation, they live there, it's their fucking land. Deal with it.
    I am afraid that many in the US are swayed by rhetoric. They don't understand our place in the world nor do they realize how we are fading due to these outrageous punitive actions of our dumbass leader. If this keeps up I fully expect China and Russia to renew their efforts for a successful move in changing global currency from the dollar as soon as the economy allows them to. Maybe then these Trump supporters will get a clue that alienating the world is not diplomacy and comes with penalties.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Minotaur View Post
    I am afraid that many in the US are swayed by rhetoric. They don't understand our place in the world nor do they realize how we are fading due to these outrageous punitive actions of our dumbass leader. If this keeps up I fully expect China and Russia to renew their efforts for a successful move in changing global currency from the dollar as soon as the economy allows them to. Maybe then these Trump supporters will get a clue that alienating the world is not diplomacy and comes with penalties.
    It is a more personal issue for me, than for Madeline. My homeland, Abkhazia, sees its independent existence denied by the Western world just like Palestine, simply because its government is closely allied with Russia. Ignorant Western politicians and Georgians still insist on referring to Abkhazia as a "breakaway Georgian territory" or something. Even though every Abkhazian family has a relative who died in the wars in the 90s to sever those ties with Georgia, and most Abkhazians today would kill and themselves die, before ever submit to Georgian rule again.

    I am sick and tired of this American arrogance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    It is a more personal issue for me, than for Madeline. My homeland, Abkhazia, sees its independent existence denied by the Western world just like Palestine, simply because its government is closely allied with Russia. Ignorant Western politicians and Georgians still insist on referring to Abkhazia as a "breakaway Georgian territory" or something. Even though every Abkhazian family has a relative who died in the wars in the 90s to sever those ties with Georgia, and most Abkhazians today would kill and themselves die, before ever submit to Georgian rule again.

    I am sick and tired of this American arrogance.
    That is a problem of having no history in the US and therefore little ability to understand the complexities of those older societies whose home is not lines drawn by outsiders. For them home is their historic homeland and they will fight to the end for their homeland no matter how someone else sees their land or status. It may show itself as arrogance but to me it appears to be seeded in ignorance and an inability to comprehend that these entities love their homeland as much as Americans love our country. Hell they don't even know that Trump is just using money to get Palestinians back to the table even though he did the very thing that makes US money worthless to them. Trump stomped and pooped on their history.
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