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    Quote Originally Posted by Blueneck View Post
    According to this article, they do:

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...vors/97084930/
    This article made me cry. How can anyone, Jewish or not, see this suffering and not try to alleviate it?

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    @Ian Jeffrey.....do American rabbis talk about helping these people?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    This article made me cry. How can anyone, Jewish or not, see this suffering and not try to alleviate it?

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    Great idea, now their government won't have to worry about feeding them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    @Ian Jeffrey.....do American rabbis talk about helping these people?
    There are literally many millions of dollars in private money (from Jews, worldwide) available to help poor people as a general rule. I do not know why it is not reaching them. Way outside my pay grade.
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    This sounds very strange to me. My grandparents are Holocaust survivors, they are not poor and they don't live in Israel, and yet they have been receiving a monthly sum from the Claims Conference since the early 1990s:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claims_Conference

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helena View Post
    This sounds very strange to me. My grandparents are Holocaust survivors, they are not poor and they don't live in Israel, and yet they have been receiving a monthly sum from the Claims Conference since the early 1990s:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claims_Conference

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    I am very glad to hear this, madam, though of course very sorrowful at the reason why these payments are being made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    There are literally many millions of dollars in private money (from Jews, worldwide) available to help poor people as a general rule. I do not know why it is not reaching them. Way outside my pay grade.
    Something is not right. Either this charity is lying to American donors, or some massive fraud targeting Holocaust survivors is underway in Israel.

    And I would have said THAT was impossible. Israel has one of the lowest rates of financial crimes on the planet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    I am very glad to hear this, madam, though of course very sorrowful at the reason why these payments are being made.
    The funny / sad / bizarre thing about this is that while the Claims Conference's programs are based on funds from Germany, as the institution itself clearly says right on its website

    We provide direct payments to Holocaust survivors with funds received from Germany and we negotiate to expand and create programs.
    my grandma pretends that Germany has nothing to with it whatsoever and the money she and grandpa receive every month is provided by Israel. Make of that what you will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helena View Post
    The funny / sad / bizarre thing about this is that while the Claims Conference's programs are based on funds from Germany, as the institution itself clearly says right on its website



    my grandma pretends that Germany has nothing to with it whatsoever and the money she and grandpa receive every month is provided by Israel. Make of that what you will.
    I never judge any Holocaust survivor, regardless. I think their continued existence is fucking miraculous, and why they weren't all incurably insane after what they endured is a mystery.

    And a testament to the power of love.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    I am very glad to hear this, madam, though of course very sorrowful at the reason why these payments are being made.
    We have Christ's Table here to provide food assistance to the poor. And Meals on Wheels too. There are always holes in safety nets. And in some countries, the USA among them, there are people who advocate dramatic cutbacks in social welfare programs in order to pay for more weapons.
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