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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    Yeah... Even an idiot should know that the answer to that question is zero.
    The implication of that question is that somehow it would all be more acceptable if Israelis died too.

    That's sick and idiotic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    The Israelis turn to Netanyahu when they feel threatened.
    Uh, no ... that is not how Israel's government is elected. Netanyahu is prime minister because he led his party to an electoral plurality, and was able to make a coalition to create a government. He was not elected as an individual strongman.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Claudius the God View Post
    Zionism has proven that you are what you hate.
    Uh, no.

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    Israel is practicing genocide....
    No, it is not.

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    How [Israel] can lecture us about the Holocaust and support this regime is beyond me.
    Israel has an elected parliamentary government, not a "regime." And it can lecture you about the Holocaust because it was a blatant attempt and intent to wipe out all Jews. no such thing toward Palestinians is occurring. Israel responds to attacks, nothing more.
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    All of this bloodshed is directly on trump's hands.
    I am no Trump supporter, as you (should) know, and think pretty much anything he does is without thought. However, I do not understand how this statement has any validity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dangermouse View Post
    Standing behind an internal fence preventing access to your fields and countryside is "poking" your occupier?
    Yeah ... not what happened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Claudius the God View Post
    Israel was created out of Allied sympathies for what happened in WW2. Collective guilt and shame along with no desire to repatriate displaced Jews back into their war ravaged homes led to the creation of a legal basis for Jews to take over Palestine.
    Not to mention a recognition of the Jewish history that involves countless pogroms and expulsions. Returning the Jews to Israel is actually a safer option for Jews than relying upon the fickle sentiments of other host countries for survival.

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    The creation of a non-Zionist state in 1948 that wanted to protect existing landowners and give Jews a place to go would have been a solution that could have produced a multi-ethnic state today.
    No such "multi-ethnic state" would have been practical. Even before 1948, there were mass killings of Jews by Palestinians in the region. Only a Jewish state would secure Jewish survival.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    Not to mention a recognition of the Jewish history that involves countless pogroms and expulsions. Returning the Jews to Israel is actually a safer option for Jews than relying upon the fickle sentiments of other host countries for survival.


    No such "multi-ethnic state" would have been practical. Even before 1948, there were mass killings of Jews by Palestinians in the region. Only a Jewish state would secure Jewish survival.

    It's not possible for you to view this situation objectively, and that's understandable. It's just human nature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    It's not possible for you to view this situation objectively, and that's understandable. It's just human nature.
    Your view of "objective" is that what you approve of and agree with is objective, while what you disapprove of and disagree with is subjective.

    Nevertheless ... we can discuss the subject matter, or each other. I would prefer the former.
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    Israel has sent two trucks of medical aid to Gaza but Hamas has refused to let the people of Gaza to accept them. Hamas turned the trucks back and returned them to Israel.

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    Israel has sent two trucks of medical aid to Gaza but Hamas has refused to let the people of Gaza to accept them. Hamas turned the trucks back and returned them to Israel.
    https://www.israelnationalnews.com/N...ws.aspx/246051

    https://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-C...or-Gaza-556565

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel...k-some-trucks/

    What is your opinion on this:

    http://www.aish.com/jw/me/5-Misconce...=mm&mobile=yes
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