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    Iíve Been Called the Worst Thing You Can Call Someone, I Support the Right to Say It

    Iíve Been Called the Worst Thing You Can Call Someone, I Support the Right to Say It Anyway
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    By Kira Davis | June 20, 2017, 04:00am

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    I was called a [n-word] nearly every weekday of my life from my first day of school until my last.

    This might seem hard to believe in this day and age, but it is true. I grew up on a tiny rural island in eastern Canada. Prince Edward Island has always been known for its beautiful beaches, Anne of Green Gables and potatoes.

    But before the internet made the world much smaller, before mass immigration to North America from many regions across the world, before anyone had even heard of the term Ďhate speechí Ė before all these things PEI was isolated and white. In the Ď70s and Ď80s most Islanders had never seen a black person in real life, and their entertainment certainly contained very few black faces. I was an anomaly. I was odd and too many people felt too free to let me know on a regular basis.

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    Iím telling you this story because today the Supreme Court ruled that the 1st Amendment contains no exceptions for hate speech.

    As someone who has regularly been called one of the most horrible things one person can call another human being, I whole-heartedly support this decision and I couldnít agree more.


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    Iíve Been Called the Worst Thing You Can Call Someone, I Support the Right to Say It Anyway
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    By Kira Davis | June 20, 2017, 04:00am

    <Excerpt>:

    I was called a [n-word] nearly every weekday of my life from my first day of school until my last.

    This might seem hard to believe in this day and age, but it is true. I grew up on a tiny rural island in eastern Canada. Prince Edward Island has always been known for its beautiful beaches, Anne of Green Gables and potatoes.

    But before the internet made the world much smaller, before mass immigration to North America from many regions across the world, before anyone had even heard of the term Ďhate speechí Ė before all these things PEI was isolated and white. In the Ď70s and Ď80s most Islanders had never seen a black person in real life, and their entertainment certainly contained very few black faces. I was an anomaly. I was odd and too many people felt too free to let me know on a regular basis.

    ...

    Iím telling you this story because today the Supreme Court ruled that the 1st Amendment contains no exceptions for hate speech.

    As someone who has regularly been called one of the most horrible things one person can call another human being, I whole-heartedly support this decision and I couldnít agree more.


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    Edit: I need more coffee.

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    First of all, I was reared in the time of 'sticks and stones' as was taught that words do not draw blood.

    Then lets me also clarify that does not mean that sustained and constant beratement from a person in authority is not healthy according to clinicians.

    These days children are taught that bullying is not to be tolerated and laws have been passed to curb the practice. Is bullying free speech? What is the qualifier?
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    I’ve Been Called the Worst Thing You Can Call Someone, I Support the Right to Say It Anyway
    The Resurgent
    By Kira Davis | June 20, 2017, 04:00am

    <Excerpt>:

    I was called a [n-word] nearly every weekday of my life from my first day of school until my last.

    This might seem hard to believe in this day and age, but it is true. I grew up on a tiny rural island in eastern Canada. Prince Edward Island has always been known for its beautiful beaches, Anne of Green Gables and potatoes.

    But before the internet made the world much smaller, before mass immigration to North America from many regions across the world, before anyone had even heard of the term ‘hate speech’ – before all these things PEI was isolated and white. In the ‘70s and ‘80s most Islanders had never seen a black person in real life, and their entertainment certainly contained very few black faces. I was an anomaly. I was odd and too many people felt too free to let me know on a regular basis.

    ...

    I’m telling you this story because today the Supreme Court ruled that the 1st Amendment contains no exceptions for hate speech.

    As someone who has regularly been called one of the most horrible things one person can call another human being, I whole-heartedly support this decision and I couldn’t agree more.


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    Just something that caught my attention.

    The crux of our constitution is that no human rights come from man. If man can grant rights then man can take rights away. Our Founding Fathers were deliberate in asserting that rights come only from God. No man may tear them asunder.
    This is not the crux of the US Constitution. No where does our Constitution A] state that rights are God-given.

    B], One of the purposes of the Constitution is to set up a way to distiguish rights and a guide on how rights could be protected.

    C] The US Constitution was written with a way to amend the document to add to or even remove from the documents rights held by the people.

    No law from any God is negotiable and up for a democratic vote. Religion is the antithesis of democracy.
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    Edit: I need more coffee.
    Well now I'm curious, but I won't nag.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DebateDrone View Post
    Just something that caught my attention.



    This is not the crux of the US Constitution. No where does our Constitution A] state that rights are God-given.

    B], One of the purposes of the Constitution is to set up a way to distiguish rights and a guide on how rights could be protected.

    C] The US Constitution was written with a way to amend the document to add to or even remove from the documents rights held by the people.

    No law from any God is negotiable and up for a democratic vote. Religion is the antithesis of democracy.

    I'm inclined to agree re: the "crux," but I'm assuming you're familiar with the concept of "natural law," and the view - held by many - that rights are God-given and the purpose of the Constitution is to protect them from violation by man?

    Even if you don't subscribe to that view, do you disagree with the idea that even offensive speech warrants First Amendment protections?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DebateDrone View Post
    First of all, I was reared in the time of 'sticks and stones' as was taught that words do not draw blood.

    Then lets me also clarify that does not mean that sustained and constant beratement from a person in authority is not healthy according to clinicians.

    These days children are taught that bullying is not to be tolerated and laws have been passed to curb the practice. Is bullying free speech?
    What is the qualifier?
    Indeed!
    And is the use of that word always hate speech?


    I grew up with a kid who always made friends with blacks, those were his running buddies.
    He was part of their group, and he picked up their mannerisms and speech.
    They called themselves ******s (hate speech?), and he did as well (now is it hate speech?).

    I remember being in a pool hall and his group was playing a round, divided into teams.
    One of the guys on his team made a bad play and he remarked "n, look what you've done now".
    A black player on another table slammed him in the head from behind with a pool cue.
    As he went down for the count, his 'pack' bum-rushed the attacking player.

    Not everything is as it seems at first blush.
    And perhaps too much is made of this word.
    In at least one instance, it surely was.

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    White Supremacists want to feel free to use it any time without any one complaining, that is their mind set.
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    Just because you have the first amendment right, does not mean you have to be a racist POS and spew your bigotry and hate for the world to see, at least have some shame.

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