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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Not for nothing, but I can't truthfully call Standing Rock a "labor dispute".

    But the vicious government thuggery involved was certainly shocking. Reminded me of the 1968 Chicago convention, etc.

    And it was an aberration. Nothing like that happened after the 1970's, that I know of.
    I wonder if the private police at Standing Rock know the history of Labor Day to not celebrate something they will be used to brutalize.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chaos View Post
    I wonder if the private police at Standing Rock know the history of Labor Day to not celebrate something they will be used to brutalize.
    How would they? It is not taught in American history classes.

    Like it never even happened.......

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    Similar over here. Take Churchill. Voted greatest Briton. His part in the use of troops against the labour movement (Tonypandy riots) is ignored.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ęthelfrith View Post
    Similar over here. Take Churchill. Voted greatest Briton. His part in the use of troops against the labour movement (Tonypandy riots) is ignored.
    My (very vague) impression ix, Churchill iis regarded by UK people as brilliant during WWII, and a disaster in peacetime.

    Is that not so?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    My (very vague) impression ix, Churchill iis regarded by UK people as brilliant during WWII, and a disaster in peacetime.

    Is that not so?
    They did re-elect him in 51. But he certainly wasn't as popular as we think (with open hostility). Even those stirring speeches weren't known at the time. Hero-worship for a great imperialist created for today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Teddy Roosevelt was a progressive and deeply committed to the interests of the "common man".

    But I didn't know he stopped/slowed down the attacks. How did he do this?

    There were actual police by 1917, correct?
    Pinkerton kills strikers.

    Madeline, there was a great program on the History channel about the Pinkertons killing strikers. From being a good force they slowly changed into thugs.

    My Son was shacked to see what happened to strikers. He was even a Business Agent in his Engineers Union, but had no idea how hard it was for Union beginnings.

    Teddy Roosevelt smashed the big cartels, Carnegie and Rockefeller.

    That is why the History channel is so importatant. My family loves it.they even showed the Missing Books of the Bible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ęthelfrith View Post
    They did re-elect him in 51. But he certainly wasn't as popular as we think (with open hostility). Even those stirring speeches weren't known at the time. Hero-worship for a great imperialist created for today.
    Just like Americans they admired Churchill during war time,then discarded him in Peace.

    Did you know Evangelicals here compared Trump to Churchill? The Leader even preached about it. The final straw that drove me from the Southern Baptist Church. Half has become uneducated bigots whose only thought is Abortion,hate gays and love guns.and yes,hate President Obama.

    The other half think Christians should live up to the Teachings of Christ. Huge battle,every year at the Convention. Half want the Soutthern name to go away. Just an idea of what the Southern part stands for
    Last edited by MaryAnne; 4th September 2017 at 03:28 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ęthelfrith View Post
    Similar over here. Take Churchill. Voted greatest Briton. His part in the use of troops against the labour movement (Tonypandy riots) is ignored.
    On that you are right. I remember Churchill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaryAnne View Post
    Just like Americans they admired Chipurchill during war time,then discarded him in Peace.
    But even that is overblown. For example, one of his 'great speeches' was heard by Parliament and no one else. I believe it was taped after the war, with him giving it while in bed.

    What I liked about the American influence is their assault on his imperialism, via the Atlantic Charter (but I best say no more as we're moving way too far from the thread's positive purpose)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ęthelfrith View Post
    But even that is overblown. For example, one of his 'great speeches' was heard by Parliament and no one else. I believe it was taped after the war, with him giving it while in bed.

    What I liked about the American influence is their assault on his imperialism, via the Atlantic Charter (but I best say no more as we're moving way too far from the thread's positive purpose)
    Blame Spell Check for cipurchill!

    You are not going away,you are giving History,something few remember accurately. One of the purposes of our board.
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