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    Quote Originally Posted by boontito View Post
    I have an 8th grader and he had a month long unit on slavery and the Civil War last year and I can assure you it was about learning to farm. In 5th grade he had to choose a Civil Rights era person to do a short report on. He chose Jackie Robinson.

    I'm always amused by these "the sky is falling" takes on education from people who don't have kids in school.
    I am *astonished* to hear this.

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    Teddy Roosevelt was a republican president who helped to end the brutal beatings and murder of labor being committed by private security and U.S. military. More than a hundred years later republicans are now anti-labor who support and justify private security and the military breaking the back of labor.
    Absolutely bogus charge. Labor unions are not generalizable to all employment.

    Labor is what made America great
    No it isn't.

    The labor revolt will also have to include a civil war against all the anti-labor, white christian males
    That is schizophrenic.

    who want to destroy America so bad that they elected Trump.
    Trump won more union households than any Republican presidential candidate since Reagan in '84, which was an historic landslide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaos View Post
    That explains how white christian males became anti-worker; they believe the revisionist history of religious fundamentalist.
    It's not possible to write an American history text without making subjective judgments about what to include and exclude.

    But........

    IMO, my kid's textbooks were deliberately written to exclude any history of the American poor.

    It was all wars and the invention of the Model T, blah blah blah.

    Not one word about such things as the violent government attscks on workers in the 19th and 20th centuries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    It's not possible to write an American history text without making subjective judgments about what to include and exclude.

    But........

    IMO, my kid's textbooks were deliberately written to exclude any history of the American poor.

    It was all wars and the invention of the Model T, blah blah blah.

    Not one word about such things as the violent government attscks on workers in the 19th and 20th centuries.
    There was nothing about the Dust Bowl or Great Depression? I don't know if I've ever seen a history textbook without either.

    My nephew is 24, so out of high school six years and he still had to watch the Grapes of Wrath in class.
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    Another thing to look at that does make it hard for history teachers and schools as a whole is the passage of time. The school year isn't any longer than it was in the 1950's, but there are almost seven more decades of history to teach now. With each new decade, as historical events get added to the curriculum, something has to be dropped out or breezed over more quickly. Choosing what gets the attention is not an easy task.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boontito View Post
    There was nothing about the Dust Bowl or Great Depression? I don't know if I've ever seen a history textbook without either.

    My nephew is 24, so out of high school six years and he still had to watch the Grapes of Wrath in class.
    Yeah, but no context. No Grapes of Wrath type information, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boontito View Post
    Another thing to look at that does make it hard for history teachers and schools as a whole is the passage of time. The school year isn't any longer than it was in the 1950's, but there are almost seven more decades of history to teach now. With each new decade, as historical events get added to the curriculum, something has to be dropped out or breezed over more quickly. Choosing what gets the attention is not an easy task.
    Imagine if we had been raising kids in Europe?

    How many centuries do they try to teach their children? 15?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    Absolutely bogus charge. Labor unions are not generalizable to all employment.



    No it isn't.



    That is schizophrenic.



    Trump won more union households than any Republican presidential candidate since Reagan in '84, which was an historic landslide.
    Bullshit.

    Every American kid should be taught about child labor laws, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Bullshit.
    What, specifically?

    Every American kid should be taught about child labor laws, etc.
    Ok.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boontito View Post
    There was nothing about the Dust Bowl or Great Depression? I don't know if I've ever seen a history textbook without either.

    My nephew is 24, so out of high school six years and he still had to watch the Grapes of Wrath in class.
    My Grandson just took off for College. It is quite an experience to just talk with him.

    His parents thought he could not do anything without them. First week,washed his clothes and wanted to know what to buy to get the dust bunnies off the floor.
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