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    Wrong is wrong, skin color doesn't make a bit of difference, neither does the number of people involved. Naturally there were more white slave owners than black slave owners. There were proportionally MORE WHITE PEOPLE than black people. And yet, neither group seemed to mind having slaves and took full advantage of their ability to do so.

    The percentage of free black slave owners as the total number of free black heads of families was quite high in several states, namely 43 percent in South Carolina, 40 percent in Louisiana, 26 percent in Mississippi, 25 percent in Alabama and 20 percent in Georgia

    In fact:

    "The free colored population [native] of Louisiana … own slaves, and they are dearly attached to their native land … and they are ready to shed their blood for her defense. They have no sympathy for abolitionism; no love for the North, but they have plenty for Louisiana … They will fight for her in 1861 as they fought [to defend New Orleans from the British] in 1814-1815."

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    When New Orleans fell in late April 1862 to the Union, about 10 percent of these men, not missing a beat, now formed the Native Guard/Corps d'Afrique to defend the Union. Joel A. Rogers noted this phenomenon in his 100 Amazing Facts: "The Negro slave-holders, like the white ones, fought to keep their chattels in the Civil War." Rogers also notes that some black men, including those in New Orleans at the outbreak of the War, "fought to perpetuate slavery."

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    It's obviously a lot more complicated than just blindly blaming "whitey" for all the evils of slavery.
    There were no black slave owners Barbella, read your article again. White people owned white people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbella View Post
    Blacks weren't the only slaves, yet no one ever talks about the white slaves. Why is that, do you think?

    White Cargo is the forgotten story of the thousands of Britons who lived and died in bondage in Britain’s American colonies.

    In the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries, more than 300,000 white people were shipped to America as slaves. Urchins were swept up from London’s streets to labor in the tobacco fields, where life expectancy was no more than two years. Brothels were raided to provide “breeders” for Virginia. Hopeful migrants were duped into signing as indentured servants, unaware they would become personal property who could be bought, sold, and even gambled away. Transported convicts were paraded for sale like livestock.

    Drawing on letters crying for help, diaries, and court and government archives, Don Jordan and Michael Walsh demonstrate that the brutalities usually associated with black slavery alone were perpetrated on whites throughout British rule. The trade ended with American independence, but the British still tried to sell convicts in their former colonies, which prompted one of the most audacious plots in Anglo-American history.

    This is a saga of exploration and cruelty spanning 170 years that has been submerged under the overwhelming memory of black slavery. White Cargo brings the brutal, uncomfortable story to the surface.

    https://www.amazon.com/White-Cargo-F.../dp/0814742963
    Also, would you mind using the term, "african american", I hate that term "black", it's er.... well you know.

    I don't call you "whitey" do I?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PACE View Post
    And that was the loss leader,,, you stopped reading there, so for the balance of this thread, you are on ignore.

    Thanks for playing.
    Oh, you mean you actually don't like when people don't read what you say and then respond?

    Not surprised that you are a hypocrite on top of the racist bigotry you present,
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    Quote Originally Posted by PACE View Post
    There were no black slave owners Barbella, read your article again. White people owned white people.
    You'e kidding, right? Or maybe you're not, in which case, I refuse to debate you any further. Thanks for playing, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbella View Post
    You'e kidding, right? Or maybe you're not, in which case, I refuse to debate you any further. Thanks for playing, though.
    No, I am not kidding. your source of reference leaves a lot to be desired, you have to understand, here we challenge the sources that back up statements.

    You'd be best served to order this book to understand the foundation of your assertion:

    http://www.jstor.org/stable/20064049...n_tab_contents

    Reading it will tell why, freed African Americans played "the white man's game".
    Last edited by PACE; 16th September 2017 at 10:59 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PACE View Post
    Also, would you mind using the term, "african american", I hate that term "black", it's er.... well you know.

    I don't call you "whitey" do I?
    I'm pretty sure blacks refer to white people as "whites". Don't be ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbella View Post
    I'm pretty sure blacks refer to white people as "whites". Don't be ridiculous.
    Lmao... Good one, expecting ridiculous people to not be that way...
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    Pace, you know what the truly SAD PART of your post is? We still have the need to discuss it. AMERICA'S ORIGINAL SIN.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbella View Post
    I'm pretty sure blacks refer to white people as "whites". Don't be ridiculous.
    Okay, call em what you want, and I'll keep correcting it.

    Are you white by the way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PACE View Post
    No, I am not kidding. your source of reference leaves a lot to be desired, you have to understand, here we challenge the sources that back up statements.

    You'd be best served to order this book to understand the foundation of your assertion:

    "The Known World" of Free Black Slaveholders: A Research Note on the Scholarship of Carter G. Woodson on JSTOR

    Reading it will tell why, freed African Americans played "the white man's game".
    Google is your friend. Try it sometime.

    There were approximately 319,599 free blacks in the United States in 1830. Approximately 13.7 per cent of the total black population was free. A significant number of these free blacks were the owners of slaves. The census of 1830 lists 3,775 free Negroes who owned a total of 12,760 slaves.

    9 Facts About Slavery They Don't Want You to Know
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