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    Quote Originally Posted by Sassy View Post
    I've never seen or heard a debate on that.
    News to me too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    Yes, there is. Every time some idiot deliberately refuses to call a transgender person by their preferred gender.
    Ah, so you think there should be a law against that then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coyote View Post
    Or say that there are only two genders, genitalia determines gender, or genetics, or whatever their pet delusion happens to be.
    And if someone does believe those pet delusions, should that be a crime?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coyote View Post
    I'm not mad Bajisama started the thread. I'm mad that it's a controversial topic at all. We don't withhold other necessary medical treatments from kids (and adults) like that. We don't make them prove that they're deserving. Not in the same way, and not to the same standards and accompanying unquestioned biases and assumptions. Yes, I realize hormones are a big deal. I realize that on a visceral level in a way that few others do. And so does every other trans person who has ever had, wants to have, or might want in the future to have hormones since they've become an available medical treatment. What it's always been about is certain cultures' historical discomfort with anything that exists outside of rigidly defined and extremely limited in scope gender roles and expectations *cough*Abrahamic religions*cough*.
    We don't know the extent of the effects on HRT in adolescents or prepubescent children, so yes it is a controversial topic and a discussion that needs to be had. Also, I think it's perfectly legitimate to raise the question of whether or not providing HRT to anyone is a necessary function of a government funded program.

    And your last sentence is just a strawman.
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    Quote Originally Posted by soupnazi View Post
    Wrong.

    Refusing to recognize a preferred gender does not even remotely equate to denying the existence of a person or that persons right to exist.

    The LBGTQRRDDLTX community is not fighting for rights as they already have the same rights as anyone. They are demanding approval.
    With the threat of force behind them too. Look at New York City's laws about it or Toronto's bill C-16.

    It's pretty ominous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    Yes, there is. Every time some idiot deliberately refuses to call a transgender person by their preferred gender.
    you dont seem to get it... everything and everyone is up for debate and discussion. Its not just a trans thing.

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    We all have subject matters we personally feel should not be up for debate because we feel it is so clear what is right.

    Saying that topic shouldn't even BE here is a level of entitlement complex that I frankly find hard to comprehend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coyote View Post
    Or say that there are only two genders, genitalia determines gender, or genetics, or whatever their pet delusion happens to be.
    What your DNA has to say about a person is not a delusion.... It is fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sassy View Post
    People have a right to their opinion. One cannot expect for the world to bend to one's particular POV. Especially a debate site, of all places.

    you would think educated people would understand that. The whole agenda is to NOT allow people to have the right to their own opinion.... but to force them into agenda crafted POV's
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coyote View Post
    Every $#21ing bathroom law, 48 states where it's legal to claim a trans person's very existence panicked you into killing them in self-defense, every state that allows you to fire someone because they're trans, or not let them rent a house, etc., etc., and on and on and on and on in an endless parade of false boogeymen and concerted villainizing from diverse groups who otherwise hate each other and yada yada yada it's fucking maddening sometimes I tell ya :P
    bullshit

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