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    In my work, I interview people about their lives, their achievements and the things that matter to them.

    I had my first interview with a transgender person about 15 years ago.

    I thought she had an excellent attitude toward the whole thing.

    She had a scientific nature and had chosen to go the whole way, with an operation and everything.

    To her, this was an adventure and she enjoyed first making the decision and then marshaling the resources she needed to affect the transformation.

    There was only one achievement in her list on the topic of her change. She didn't want to be part of a cause or all call attention to herself or play the victim.

    She defined herself by her work, not her physical change. I was impressed. She was a good silent ambassador for her choice.

    My problem with transgenders are those who seem to be taking it up as a cause. A lot of people don't like change and resist the oddness of it all. That does not make them evil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    Yes, there is. Every time some idiot deliberately refuses to call a transgender person by their preferred gender.
    There is no such thing.,.I do not have to respect anyone choosing to be the opposite DNA anymore than I have to respect someone that chooses to be a transager.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    Lots of conservative jackasses here on PH deliberately misgender trans people and throw around the word "tranny", I believe to bully Coyote, as our only trans member. It pisses me off, personally, because I hate bullies, period.
    You say you hate bullies...yet you're all for bullying others into believing as you do. Hypocrisy, at least you've got that going for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carpe diem View Post
    You say you hate bullies...yet you're all for bullying others into believing as you do. Hypocrisy, at least you've got that going for you.
    You are free to believe what you want (Carl Jung defined belief as "what you have when you dont know") but you dont have the right to try and force your beliefs about another's gender identification on him or her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by labrea View Post
    You are free to believe what you want (Carl Jung defined belief as "what you have when you dont know") but you dont have the right to try and force your beliefs about another's gender identification on him or her.
    No one is doing that. No one here gives a shit how other people want to 'identify'. The force is on the part of some TGs. Onto us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sassy View Post
    Jenner is in a much better position to stomp and whine if she wants to. To 'educate' people on how to 'properly' speak to and around her. She doesn't want to. She doesn't want to be a walking, talking TG person, she wants to just be a person. I respect the hell out of that, especially with her Kardashian background.

    She has discovered that what is really important to her, she has now. She immensely enjoys the most simple things in life. All her life she wanted to dress this way, she refers to it like two different people and she used to have to only do it places like Vegas where no one would recognize her.

    Now she can go about her normal routines as herself and has realized this is all she ever wanted. It's frankly narcissistic to do otherwise. Excoriating strangers or well-meaning acquaintances. Imagine going your whole life projecting every tiny issue you have onto everyone and demanding they cater to it.

    In fact, the very definition of narcissism is a person that creates a false image of themselves, can't maintain it on their own, and so they demand that others reflect it back so they can temporarily bask in it, able to see themselves as they wish they were, if only for a short time, until their next fix. That is a mental disorder. Whether TGism is is a different discussion, but there is not question about NPD.

    That is what you pay a therapist for and what your loved ones do for you..... help you with your treatment. Demanding the world participate in your treatment is just more agenda.
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    Quote Originally Posted by labrea View Post
    You are free to believe what you want (Carl Jung defined belief as "what you have when you dont know") but you dont have the right to try and force your beliefs about another's gender identification on him or her.
    lmao.....

    and what do you think forcing others into a personal belief is? trans dont have the right to force anyone into their beliefs and/or forcing it onto others...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sassy View Post
    No one is doing that. No one here gives a shit how other people want to 'identify'. The force is on the part of some TGs. Onto us.

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    'Why TGs are often bitter and grumpy': Because they need society to see them and treat them as something they are not. Merely using the right pronouns is most certainly not enough.

    In fact the wording in the OP is very insightful when one is thinking about the narcissist's viewpoint. The mere act of discussing hormone treatment for minors is causing the OP to feel her very existence is being attacked, and that of all TGs. The sense of self is so very fragile, that nothing but constant validation keeps their heads above water even (emotionally).

    Activists now say that one is 'transphobic' if they wouldn't want to date a trans. Wouldn't see him or her exactly the same as a cis person. That is insane. They are not the same, self-identification aside. I can engage in the ritual of enabling the way anyone wants to identify to an extent, but I will not be told that x is y.
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    Quote Originally Posted by syrenn View Post
    lmao.....

    and what do you think forcing others into a personal belief is? trans dont have the right to force anyone into their beliefs and/or forcing it onto others...
    I imagine for a trans person it is more than a belief, it is their experience.
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