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    Quote Originally Posted by syrenn View Post
    pretty sure when a man in a dress is in there... no one needs to check.
    That, right there tells me you don't know what you're talking about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by labrea View Post
    Do you think our laws should support those delusions?
    Yes, it's called free speech.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    I can't even bear to read these threads anymore - I've never seen more judgmental crap from people in my life. Again, from people who have no idea what's it like to be Transgendered and all the obstacles they face.
    Ah yes, the victims, the victims, the blessed victims. That's the attitude I hate and the one that the left wants to elevate.

    Being a unique person is a privilege, not a status worth pity. You think you're a woman in man's body? Go for it. But expecting the world to easily accept this and then asking the government to FORCE people to accept it is nuttier then the belief that you're a woman in man's body. People are biased and xenophobic by nature. Most people go out of their way to find reasons to hate others. That's the sad reality. But don't get all freaking self righteous about it. You're just doing more of the same. Your homework is to watch Star Trek for the next year and learn the IDIC principle. Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations. Xenophobia is one of those points of diversity. It's not one I would choose, but it appears you may need some education. Did I use the word "hate?" OMG, I did! Looks like I am just another human. We are ALL human, even the "deplorables."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coyote View Post
    I'm not mad Bajisama started the thread. I'm mad that it's a controversial topic at all. We don't withhold other necessary medical treatments from kids (and adults) like that. We don't make them prove that they're deserving. Not in the same way, and not to the same standards and accompanying unquestioned biases and assumptions. Yes, I realize hormones are a big deal. I realize that on a visceral level in a way that few others do. And so does every other trans person who has ever had, wants to have, or might want in the future to have hormones since they've become an available medical treatment. What it's always been about is certain cultures' historical discomfort with anything that exists outside of rigidly defined and extremely limited in scope gender roles and expectations *cough*Abrahamic religions*cough*.
    I think sadly its "one of those things" that will take a long time to work out. It seems many have been raised over the decades and in previous generations to have puritanical belief systems. We look just 40 years ago where "Lucy" couldnt show that she was pregnant on tv, couples had to have separate beds and gays were hidden away. Its changed a lot but we still arent there and as people open up about their lifestyles there will still be many that dont understand or want to understand. I know its not easy but a friend of one of my kids thats trans gendered considers herself a "pioneer" in that she is paving the way for future generations. She knows the road is tough and at times seems impossible, but also knows in a decade or two life will be very different. If we think about things long term, we always move forward even if there are steps back along the way.
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    The Original Post is a false premise. No one ever said that- or if they did, they are to the maximum extreme.
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    Quote Originally Posted by labrea View Post
    You are free to believe what you want (Carl Jung defined belief as "what you have when you dont know") but you dont have the right to try and force your beliefs about another's gender identification on him or her.
    I'm not the one attempting to force my beliefs, that just happens to be the typical response whenever anyone stands up for what they believe. You may note I said I do not respect, I did not say what anyone can and cannot act like or feel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    I can't even bear to read these threads anymore - I've never seen more judgmental crap from people in my life. Again, from people who have no idea what's it like to be Transgendered and all the obstacles they face.
    While you openly judge others...
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    Quote Originally Posted by carpe diem View Post
    While you openly judge others...

    lol... isnt that just precious?

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    Quote Originally Posted by syrenn View Post
    lol... isnt that just precious?
    You need the approved secret decoder ring to figure out when judge is judge and when it's just secular humanist wisdom.

    GET WITH THE PROGRAM!

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    Quote Originally Posted by syrenn View Post
    no, it is not medically necessary. You may think it is, but it is not
    By the same logic, PTSD therapy isn't medically necessary either. Sure, people with PTSD may be suffering psychological trauma - but would you call treatment "medically necessary?"

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