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    Gays, non-whites "will feel safe" at WC2018

    Gay people and minorities will feel "safe and comfortable" at this summer's World Cup in Russia, the tournament's anti-discrimination chief has said.

    And Alexei Smertin has dismissed fears over racism and homophobia towards fans as "propaganda".

    Earlier this year Russian club Spartak Moscow was sanctioned after referring to its black players as "chocolates".

    And Russian lawmakers have been criticised for a 2013 law targeting the promotion of homosexuality.

    But Smertin, a former Chelsea midfielder capped 55 times by his country, told BBC World Service Sport's Mani Djazmi: "Come over to Russia and your mind will be changed completely about Russia as a country, as a football country."

    He said he had spoken to Spartak Moscow about an offensive official club tweet - for which its social media manager was later fined - and put it down to "ignorance". He pointed out the players referred to had not been offended - though it was accepted the language was not correct.

    Last year, European football's anti-discrimination group Fare warned gay fans travelling to the World Cup not to show affection in public if they wanted to stay safe.

    A law passed in 2013 banning gay "propaganda" has also drawn criticism - the European Court of Human Rights last year ruled it was "discriminatory".

    But Smertin said: "Of course there are a minority who are quite aggressive against this but if you are talking about showing feelings, if you are talking about rainbow flags, it won't be prohibited in Russia during World Cup or afterwards.

    "It definitely won't be stressful and we let everyone feel comfortable and safe in our country."

    When asked if same-sex couples walking down the street holding hands or kissing would be seen as a problem, he answered: "No - this is just feelings."

    Aleksandr Agapov, the president of Russia's LGBT sports federation, said it was "possible" gay and ethnic minority fans would avoid trouble at the showpiece event.

    "But for us the question is the legacy of the World Cup, what will be after the World Cup?" he added.

    "After the World Cup will be a routine life. The anti-gay law will still be there and we will still have the discrimination."
    World Cup 2018: Alexei Smertin says gay people and minorities will feel safe in Russia - BBC Sport

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    "Gay people and minorities will feel "safe and comfortable" at this summer's World Cup in Russia, the tournament's anti-discrimination chief has said."

    Russian humor is weird.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    "Gay people and minorities will feel "safe and comfortable" at this summer's World Cup in Russia, the tournament's anti-discrimination chief has said."

    Russian humor is weird.
    I obviously hope it will go down as he says. But, yeah, I have huge doubts...

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    Russian, of all people, waving the Nazi banner? WTF???
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    Just an ironic piece of history that I wanted to add to your thread - it was Ernst Roehm (a known homosexual) and his SA followers that largely contributed to Hitler gaining power.

    So it seems Hitler and his Nazis had no problem with homosexuals so long as they needed them politically.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollywood View Post
    Russian, of all people, waving the Nazi banner? WTF???
    What, you think they don't have Russian white supremacists?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollywood View Post
    Russian, of all people, waving the Nazi banner? WTF???
    Lots of neo-Nazis among football hooligans there, especially Spartak Moscow (as I mention in that other thread I link to in OP), and Zenit St. Petersburg. And lots and lots of racism, from black players from Africa getting bananas thrown at them and taunted with monkey chants; to, as I also said in that thread, them attacking and beating up ethnic minority folks on way to the stadium...

    I want to believe everything is magically better, in time for Wold Cup, but... well... I don't. Not until I see it.

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    What, you think they don't have Russian white supremacists?
    Some in very high places too...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollywood View Post
    Russian, of all people, waving the Nazi banner? WTF???
    So, who are those people in the picture? Spaniards or Russians?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollywood View Post
    Russian, of all people, waving the Nazi banner? WTF???
    So-called 'American Patriot' Trumpanzees wave them too.
    Even WTFier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy View Post
    Just an ironic piece of history that I wanted to add to your thread - it was Ernst Roehm (a known homosexual) and his SA followers that largely contributed to Hitler gaining power.

    So it seems Hitler and his Nazis had no problem with homosexuals so long as they needed them politically.
    Then they were killed.
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