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    Quote Originally Posted by Blueneck View Post
    How about we try going a whole other direction and look for ways to find common ground with each other instead of making excuses for ignorant displays like this by people too gutless to admit their real motives?

    I really think "pride" in any culture that thought thought it was a-okay to own human beings is desperately misplaced. Why are people so eager to let the world know they are hateful bigots to begin with? I can't imagine the thought process behind it.

    "Wait till people sees this! They're gonna shit themselves!" "Yeah, I can't wait to see the looks on the faces of them black people down the street! They gonna be so pissed!!"

    Is this what passes for pride in deplorable country?
    This doesn't make any sense as a response to my comment because I wasn't making excuses for anything in my post.

    So I'm not going to bother defending actions I never took in the first place.

    As to your second portion - we have the right to freely express ourselves in this country - and that includes those who you would consider to be "hateful bigots". You are certainly at liberty to believe their expression is desperately misplaced if you want. That's not something I would disagree with you about and I suspect they are racists as well. My point was only that they have a right to free expression just like the rest of us do. The first amendment doesn't only just protect popular speech but unpopular speech as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLeRoy View Post
    Yeah, I'm still not 'getting' what you are trying to say here.......You're saying you think these two are just FAKING their whole 'racist' act, to jerk this reporter's chain?
    Leroy.....seriously....NO ONE is defending this assholes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puzzling Evidence View Post
    Leroy.....seriously....NO ONE is defending this assholes.
    They are hard to defend.... as the black mannequins make it rather obvious it's some kind of racial provocation.

    There are southerners who exhibit the confederate flag out of cultural pride and not out of racism. But I don't believe these two idiots qualify for the benefit of that doubt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLeRoy View Post
    Not very much, and not very well.

    You'd be surprised by the number (percentage) of students who think the Civil War happened in the 1960's. They get it confused with the Civil Rights Struggle. Learning DATES, of almost anything, has been very much de-emphasized. It's child abuse, don't you know, to make kids memorize stuff anymore. So, no more memorizing all fifty states, let alone all fifty state capitols, like you and I were no doubt expected to. No more memorizing the Gettysburg Address, or that the Magna Carta happened in 1215, or that the Declaration of Independence happened in 1776, or that Columbus sailed the ocean blue in fourteen hundred and ninety-two. Just cruel to inflict all that on our precious kids.

    A recent poll said that only a SMALL percentage of millennials had ever heard of Auschwitz...........I think it was 18%.

    No wonder more and more people think we never went to the Moon. No wonder 20% of American adults think the Sun revolves around the Earth. Ignorance in America is spreading like a cancer.
    Two thirds didnt know what Auschwitz was. Few know much if anything about the Holocaust. Years ago when our eldest was in marching band, the school was invited to play for a new Holocaust memorial. Sadly the music teacher had to spend half an hour explaining what the Holocaust was. The kids had no idea. A great deal in part had been due to parents overwhelmingly having too much say in what teachers teach. They felt it was too traumatic to learn about and fought to not have "scary" or traumatic things taught.

    https://www.denverpost.com/2018/04/1...ials-aushwitz/

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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    Two thirds didnt know what Auschwitz was. Few know much if anything about the Holocaust. Years ago when our eldest was in marching band, the school was invited to play for a new Holocaust memorial. Sadly the music teacher had to spend half an hour explaining what the Holocaust was. The kids had no idea. A great deal in part had been due to parents overwhelmingly having too much say in what teachers teach. They felt it was too traumatic to learn about and fought to not have "scary" or traumatic things taught.

    https://www.denverpost.com/2018/04/1...ials-aushwitz/
    I'm really not at all surprised to hear that. I was born and raised in Iowa, and I did NOT learn about the Holocaust in school. Because I was kind of a history nut, I read a lot about World War II outside of school, and so of course knew all about the Holocaust. On top of that, my father's best friend was the Count of Normandy, and he came and visited our family twice while I was growing up, and I had a few very interesting conversations with him. [He had been a leader in the French Underground, and the Nazis had captured him, and tortured him, in the waning weeks of the war in France, until he was rescued by American troops.]

    I was SHOCKED, decades later, to learn that my older sister---just a bit more than two years older than me----had NEVER learned about the Holocaust until she was in her mid-30's. She had become a Human Resources executive for Hewlett Packard and had been trained on the matter as part of her cultural 'sensitivity' instruction, I guess is what you would call it. And she had asked me why they never taught this stuff in school, and if I had learned it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLeRoy View Post
    I'm really not at all surprised to hear that. I was born and raised in Iowa, and I did NOT learn about the Holocaust in school. Because I was kind of a history nut, I read a lot about World War II outside of school, and so of course knew all about the Holocaust. On top of that, my father's best friend was the Count of Normandy, and he came and visited our family twice while I was growing up, and I had a few very interesting conversations with him. [He had been a leader in the French Underground, and the Nazis had captured him, and tortured him, in the waning weeks of the war in France, until he was rescued by American troops.]

    I was SHOCKED, decades later, to learn that my older sister---just a bit more than two years older than me----had NEVER learned about the Holocaust until she was in her mid-30's. She had become a Human Resources executive for Hewlett Packard and had been trained on the matter as part of her cultural 'sensitivity' instruction, I guess is what you would call it. And she had asked me why they never taught this stuff in school, and if I had learned it.
    The fastest way to be shocked is to attend school board meetings and see what these parents freak out about. When I was a kid, it was sex ed. Now its stupid things like seniors cant watch "Schindlers List" or 10th graders cant watch a 9-11 video. When my last was in high school, parents were fighting over taking Algebra out of the curriculum. I was like "so glad my last is almost done, we are going to be a scary sad nation sooner rather than later." Now here we are with flat Earth becoming popular again..
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    Quote Originally Posted by DebateDrone View Post
    Virginia is for Lovers.

    "Everybody hates somebody"
    Yes, Virginia is for Lovers. Cross the State line and Maryland is for Crabs. Would that mean--Delaware is the Cure for Crabs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roberthughey View Post
    Yet another thread title lie.
    How is it a lie? I suppose that it's a little misleading since the crux of the video is about the racist doll display on the porch, but it's accurate to say that these Virginia residents somehow believe that the Confederacy won the Civil War. Start watching at 1:30 for about fifteen seconds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    The fastest way to be shocked is to attend school board meetings and see what these parents freak out about. When I was a kid, it was sex ed. Now its stupid things like seniors cant watch "Schindlers List" or 10th graders cant watch a 9-11 video. When my last was in high school, parents were fighting over taking Algebra out of the curriculum. I was like "so glad my last is almost done, we are going to be a scary sad nation sooner rather than later." Now here we are with flat Earth becoming popular again..
    and then there's the great controversy over teaching evolution.

    One year, I had to quit using Harry Potter and the Magic Treehouse series to get kids interested in reading. Those books were about magic, you see, and one parent belonged to a fundamentalist church that taught that magic was the Devil's tool.
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