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    The implication (unspoken, obviously) is that white people are responsible for racist evil, and perpetuate it by not acknowledging that predetermine "fact." In fact, the assertion that white people are privileged on account of race, and do not seek to surrender it, is an accusation of evil - inborn and/or chosen.
    Again, I implied no such thing. I have not once brought good or evil into the discussion. That is a creation entirely of your own making.


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    People who are properly described as White Supremacists - a fraction of white people - absolutely do consciously choose that.
    And you seem to be saying in post #54 that such biases are the natural order of things.

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    Again, I implied no such thing. I have not once brought good or evil into the discussion. That is a creation entirely of your own making.
    No, it is not. The implication is clear, intended or not.

    Quote Originally Posted by Coyote View Post
    And you seem to be saying in post #54 that such biases are the natural order of things.
    Biases such as White Supremacy is not something I would describe as a "natural order." Furthermore, you have to take the statement I made in context.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    No, it is not. The implication is clear, intended or not.


    Biases such as White Supremacy is not something I would describe as a "natural order." Furthermore, you have to take the statement I made in context.
    You said Xtian institutional power structures that uphold their religion as supreme are only natural, since there are more of them than any others. At least that is what I got from it
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    People, not "institutional power structures."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    People, not "institutional power structures."
    Alright then, so it's natural for people who benefit from those structures to want to preserve those structures, consciously or unconsciously.

    Ok, that I agree with.

    But you seem to be suggesting this is not a problem and there is nothing that needs to be done about it. By putting accusations into my mouth, literally or figuratively, you're even implying that I'm the unreasonable one for calling white people inherently evil.

    Which is not even close to what I said.

    I am disappoint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rev. Hellh0und View Post
    Why would I be there?


    1. I volunteer at a few urban youth clubs

    2. I grew up there and have friends and family there.

    3. because there's a great restaurant there.




    And finally, why can't black people leave the area? what is stopping them? Are there checkpoints or something? people self segregate.
    It was designed that way by social conservatives....https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redlining

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rev. Hellh0und View Post
    Then you would have to do the same for crime rates, as well as other "rates" as well, why don't we do that?
    Yea, people already do that in regards to crime rates, extensively.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coyote View Post
    Alright then, so it's natural for people who benefit from those structures to want to preserve those structures, consciously or unconsciously.
    I said nothing about "institutional power structures."

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    But you seem to be suggesting this is not a problem and there is nothing that needs to be done about it.
    There is nothing that can be done, though, which is the point. It is presented as what Rev.H. stated as "original sin," which by definition is inherent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ATLglock View Post
    It was designed that way by social conservatives....https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redlining



    So, then that begs the question. if the reason black people are segregated today is due to white people, is the same true for hispanics, asians, italians, irish, jewish, and muslim neighborhoods?



    anyway specific to your link. If I live in newark and want to open a nail salon, it will cost me thousands of dollars to do so just to get the licensing, plus I need to go to cosmotology school and pay for that as well.


    with all the fees and licensing and schooling I need which are laws created by liberal local governments, tell me, who is keeping people down?


    also where do you see "conservatives" in your links?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ATLglock View Post
    Yea, people already do that in regards to crime rates, extensively.


    they do? is it valid?

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