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    Quote Originally Posted by Rev. Hellh0und View Post
    Growing up where I did, there were dozens of different scholarships and programs for minorities I was not eligable for. In fact, when i could not afford college or get a scholarship I tried to join the NYPD, and even though scoring in the top 1% I was told I was not black or a woman so I was not eligible to be hired at the time.


    That was my "white privilege".
    Okay, but your particular anecdote isn't really indicative of much.

    If I said that men are naturally stronger and bigger than women and someone replied "Not true! I am a man and I'm only 5'1" and 130 lbs. My wife is 6' tall 200 lbs and she can easily kick my ass!" that wouldn't prove anything either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StanStill View Post
    Okay, but your particular anecdote isn't really indicative of much.

    If I said that men are naturally stronger and bigger than women and someone replied "Not true! I am a man and I'm only 5'1" and 130 lbs. My wife is 6' tall 200 lbs and she can easily kick my ass!" that wouldn't prove anything either.

    Sure it is, there are more poor white people than black people. so my one anecdote isn't the only example of this. can you imagine how many people the NYPD turned away during this time due to having the wrong color face and a penis?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rev. Hellh0und View Post
    Sure it is, there are more poor white people than black people. so my one anecdote isn't the only example of this. can you imagine how many people the NYPD turned away during this time due to having the wrong color face and a penis?
    But as we've already been over, there are 6 times as many white people in the country, so clearly there are going to be more poor white people (by sheer numbers) than black people. I can't imagine how many people the NYPD turned away during this recent slice of time due to having the wrong color face. For much longer, it was exactly the opposite. They wouldn't hire black people to be police officers. It was an Irish good ole boy's club. Do you think they should try and undo that? Maybe try to hire people from the neighborhoods they are policing?

    NYPD is as diverse as New York City itself: study

    I'm sorry you didn't get the job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StanStill View Post
    But as we've already been over, there are 6 times as many white people in the country, so clearly there are going to be more poor white people (by sheer numbers) than black people. I can't imagine how many people the NYPD turned away during this recent slice of time due to having the wrong color face. For much longer, it was exactly the opposite. They wouldn't hire black people to be police officers. It was an Irish good ole boy's club. Do you think they should try and undo that? Maybe try to hire people from the neighborhoods they are policing?

    NYPD is as diverse as New York City itself: study

    I'm sorry you didn't get the job.



    I'm not, racism of lowered expectations set me on a path to be fit, trim and rich. It was the best thing to have happened to me.



    I think the entrance should have been based on merit, and test scores, not the color of ones skin or sex, nor should it be social engineering. WOman and minorities at the time had to get 60% to be hired, white males had no chance even scoring 99%.


    So you got less qualified people into the department to satisfy racial quotas, at what cost?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rev. Hellh0und View Post
    [T]here are more poor white people than black people.
    What is the poverty rate of white people vs. black people. "More" (or "less") in straight numbers is not statistically or sociologically meaningful.

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    QFT in lieu of thanks, since it's being persnickety again
    Reloading the page always helps me in that respect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rev. Hellh0und View Post
    It's this "us vs them" mentality the left fosters with race relationships where we can't achieve Dr. kings goals of "content of character".
    Remember, though, that it was the "Us vs. Them" mentality that started the problem in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rev. Hellh0und View Post
    [W]hite privilege is a myth, it's a false dilemna of "origional sin".
    And one for which there is no solution. White people are stuck with that stain of inborn evil.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rev. Hellh0und View Post
    tell me, lets pretend white privilege is real, what am I to do about it?
    There is, apparently, nothing that can be done about it. As above, white people are just stuck with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    Reloading the page always helps me in that respect.
    I did that several times, lol. I've noticed it happens way more often when the person doesn't have a signature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    And one for which there is no solution. White people are stuck with that stain of inborn evil.


    There is, apparently, nothing that can be done about it. As above, white people are just stuck with it.
    I don't disagree with you on much, but doing nothing isn't really a solution. It may be what most people prefer, but it's not the answer.

    The very first thing one should "do about it" is recognize that it exists. Nothing else can be done before that. When and if we ever come to that point, then we can move forward.

    We as a nation are not anywhere near that point. Responsible individuals who recognize the problem can use their privilege to work against the default white supremacy state.

    Now I know I just used that awful, terrible word. That word that makes white people shut down and pout, because white feelings take precedence over everything else, but therein lies the original rub-- first the problem must be recognized and acknowledged.

    I have about as much hope of that happening on this forum as I do that suddenly Trump will take the presidency seriously as something other than a way to prop up his fading fortune and treat the office with the respect it deserves. IOW slim to none.

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