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    new Doctor Who? ( Put It Out of Its Misery!)

    Doctor Who was never about lavish productions or computer graphics, but was a classic SciFi adventure built around by great character driven stories, solid acting performances, and fantastic imagination. Even at a low ebb, most Doctor Who episodes of the first 25 years were lightyears ahead of their time. If Doctor Who was ever about ANYTHING it was about trascendence, of limits, real or perceived, of course.

    Note: classic Doctor Who series was written by professional theatre playwrights and professional theatre actors.

    The Dalek aliens - my avatar - as created by writer Terry Nation were a euphemism for THE WAR MACHINE.

    The new Doctor Who has angels, demons, rings, lighting bolts, is this Lord of the Rings, Who, or Harry Potty? And when David Tennant jumps at least 40 feet, (if not 60-80 feet) out of a plane, thru the ceiling plate glass window onto a marble floor face first - to tackle his arch enemy the Master - he doesn't die, [episode: David Tennant, End of Time] regenerate or nothing, is he Superman now?

    You have to admit that it is nowhere near the quality of classic Who.

    Try watching the old Jon Pertwee episodes again for a reminder. The acting is better than the majority of Hollywood stuff produced today, (and hence, more believable). Tom Baker and Colin Baker are all so fun. I blame Jon Nathan Turner for not standing up to BBC execs who wanted to fire the briiliant 6th Doctor - Colin Baker - dramatic actor extraordinaire, hillarious comedic timing, showing a great passionate sensitivity, respect, and bravery to the role - expertise Peter Davison lacked for 3 insufferable seasons - my family all five of us would watch Who on PBS in whole 2 hour commercial free weekly hours, boy did the group of us let out a collective huge SIGH OF RELIEF when Castrovalva ended. We felt psychically drained. Jon Nathan Turner hackney wardrobe, cheapened sets, awful script an insulting end to Tom Baker triumphs in heroic buffoonery -but what SEEMED LIKE FOREVER and a day later after Jon Nathan Turner/Peter Davison killed the message, (and the messenger) Colin Baker saved the last dignity of the Doctor - from March 1984 to Dec. 1986.




    Colin Baker above , the last good Doctor Who

    Watch "Trial of a Timelord" -Colin Baker (Star Trek Next Generation stole the Matrix idea from Doctor Who, so did Keanu Reeves: 5 times - 2 terrible bill/ted and 3 horrid Matrix films, dude you suck at acting retire)


    Sylvester McCoy sucked.

    Some favorites of classic Who: Death to the Daleks, The Mutants, the Daemons, as well as, the Android Invasion, the Brain of Morbius, and Revelation of the Daleks is quite good, too.

    Well, I'm SORRY if fans are genuinely offended by my critique. I have to call them on what I feel are crucial errors. I am against Hollywood also for mucking around with remakes, and for cliche stories and bad acting as well. I haven't been to a show since the last LUCAS DIRECTED Star Wars, and well the last Star Trek Discovery and theatre remakes were and ARE TREASON, a betrayal of a great original cast, and TNG. Movies are just about a quick cash-in anymore, not quality. Star Trek Discovery has Klingons as enemies again -BORING!



    I always enjoy being an inspiration to others ... I had a thread title above 6 years ago ...


    Should The BBC To Put ‘Doctor Who’ Out Of Its Misery?
    ----February 7, 2017

    https://www.screencritics.net/bbc-doctor-misery/
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    examples: (with HILLARIOUS joke overdubs) ...

    MANY THANKS TO WHO-EVER MADE THE FOLLOWING FIVE DR. WHO SPOOF VIDS !

    HAPPY GROUND HOGS DAY

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    Doctor (awful Matt Smith) is surrounded by Daleks - yet none of them shoot !

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgFriPVlACs

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    Doctor and sad Davros with bad makeup effects, dialogue, and silly squid puppet

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDOiX9m5hB8

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    The Cybermen and Daleks are everywhere but barely muster a fight


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmMxz4cMKuc


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    The awful Doctor Who (David Tenant) won't stop apologizing ....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHVW-S9JkKA


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    Doctor Who ( Chris Eccleson) can't kill the last Dalek after they'd killed millions

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGDMbSR5F5U

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    I’m still confused.

    Star Wars was not particularly deep. But it’s blatantky a story of a rag tag, inter-species group of individuals vs the crisp, all-human, old-man, war-Machine, military-worship, discipline-first, root out the freaks, obey or be destroyed, regimented, uniformed fascists that constantly stand at parade and sneer with pathological disdain at anyone that isnt them.

    You can criticize Star Wars 100 ways to Sunday, but it is PLAINLY anti-fascist. With the Empire being the Nazi stand ins.

    Fascists don’t hang out with Ewoks, they don’t smuggle for alien slug gangsters. They certainly don’t decide policy through open debate at round tables surrounded by all ranks, multiple species and races, all as equals and lead by two women in white robes.

    The old guys in uniforms with medals shouting orders at columns of identical troops in formation - that’s your fascists.
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    So - you don't think those Marvel super hero movies are propaganda?



    Did you know this little tidbit ...


    He Made Army Propaganda With Stan Lee And Chuck Jones

    "When World War II came, Seuss made his way into the army—not with a gun, but with a pen. He soon found himself working side-by-side with Marvel’s Stan Lee, sketching up pamphlets that warned soldiers about the dangers of catching venereal diseases abroad.

    Seuss also worked with Chuck Jones, the director behind Looney Tunes,. He was a part of a team making propaganda videos for soldiers. Their most famous was the “Private Snafu” series, named for the phrase “Situation Normal:All F—ed Up.”


    https://listverse.com/2016/10/13/10-...e-of-dr-seuss/

    https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/artic...andering-bigot








    Knuckles -




    Try looking at the issue from the stand point of media ownership

    driving the content of the messages being sent to the public.




    Time/Warner - CNN run by CIA government connections.

    NBC - owned by war profiteer General Electric

    Disney/ABC - known to have CIA connections

    CBS - exposed CIA links by Bob Woodward and other authors

    Fox News - funded by government connected Heritage Foundation




    Media Mind Control
    Reagan being a GE salesman must have been especially high on your mind control list.

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    So - you don't think those Marvel super hero movies are propaganda?



    Did you know this little tidbit ...


    He Made Army Propaganda With Stan Lee And Chuck Jones



    "When World War II came, Seuss made his way into the army—not with a gun, but with a pen. He soon found himself working side-by-side with Marvel’s Stan Lee, sketching up pamphlets that warned soldiers about the dangers of catching venereal diseases abroad.

    Seuss also worked with Chuck Jones, the director behind Looney Tunes,. He was a part of a team making propaganda videos for soldiers. Their most famous was the “Private Snafu” series, named for the phrase “Situation Normal:All F—ed Up.

    ”He made political cartoons as well, pushing people buying war bonds to “Slap a Jap’s” smile off his face. A lot of these cartoons voiced his support for Japanese internment camps. Seuss was passionate about it. “If we want to win, we’ve got to kill the Japs,” Seuss wrote. “We can get palsy-walsy afterward with those that are left.”

    When the war ended, though, he visited to Hiroshima and changed his tune. After, he wrote, Horton Hears a Who, dedicating it to a man in Kyoto.


    https://listverse.com/2016/10/13/10-...e-of-dr-seuss/

    Dr. Seuss Was a Philandering Bigot
    Jamie Lauren Keiles
    Aug 12 2015

    This sort of baffling fluctuation--from progressive steward of childhood imagination to conventional agent of American supremacy--is a common thread that winds through Seuss/Geisel's career. His large portfolio of published political cartoons points to a man who knew how to harness the power of symbols and metaphor, but who had little by way of a coherent or consistent adult ideology to express. Sometimes he seems hateful, while at other time he seems uncritical or just confused. In one cartoon, Dr. Seuss defines racial harmony as the utilization of black labor for the war effort, while in another he depicts 25 offensively caricatured black men standing beneath a sign that reads TAKE HOME A HIGH-GRADE ****** FOR YOUR WOODPILE!

    During the war, Dr. Seuss was an open advocate for Japanese internment, and he frequently published cartoons featuring Asian Americans as buck-toothed and slanty-eyed threats to American freedom. Later, as an apology, he would dedicate Horton Hears a Who to Mitsugi Nakamura, a university professor and "great friend" he met on a post-war trip to Kyoto. During this six-week visit, Seuss collected Japanese children's drawings of the American occupation for Life magazine, but was ultimately dissatisfied with the way the collection was presented in print. "They raped the article," Dr. Seuss explained, citing the pro-Chinese bias of editor Henry Luce. It was not until 1978 that Geisel would agree to allow a throwaway joke about a "Chinaman" to be rephrased as "Chinese boy" in the text of Mulberry Street. The illustration, featuring a caricature of an Asian man with a long braid and conical hat eating rice with chopsticks, remains intact.

    Theodor Geisel was as sloppy in his personal affairs as he was with his politics. He began dating his second wife Audrey while he was still married to his first wife Helen. At that point in their marriage, Helen was partially paralyzed and terminally sick with cancer. More than cancer, however, she was sick with the knowledge of her husband's affair, and as a result committed suicide with a barbiturate overdose in 1967. In her suicide note, she wrote that Geisel could "say [she] was overworked and overwrought" so that his "reputation with [his] friends and fans will not be harmed." (A family member called Helen's suicide "her last and greatest gift to him.") Dr. Seuss's mistress, 18 years his junior, promptly divorced her husband, and the recent widower was remarried within the year. The newlyweds sent the two children from Audrey's previous marriage to boarding school. Of children, Dr. Seuss was known to say, "You have 'em and I'll entertain 'em."


    https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/artic...andering-bigot








    Knuckles -




    Try looking at the issue from the stand point of media ownership

    driving the content of the messages being sent to the public.




    Time/Warner - CNN run by CIA government connections.

    NBC - owned by war profiteer General Electric

    Disney/ABC - known to have CIA connections

    CBS - exposed CIA links by Bob Woodward and other authors

    Fox News - funded by government connected Heritage Foundation




    Media Mind Control







    Here's Mark Hamill's Biggest Issue with 'The Last Jedi':
    The "Star Wars" star says the latest version of his character is "not my Luke Skywalker."


    Here's Mark Hamill's Biggest Issue with 'The Last Jedi': 'I Still Haven't Accepted It Completely' | toofab.com

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    Okay, so there's one theory. Then again, isn't that hackey looking website that blames everything on the CIA just more of the same bullshit? "Hey, look how crappy this website is! This must really be the REAL SHIT!"

    Easy enough to see how simply consolidating ownership of so many media outlets under so few controlling interests endangers the Fourth Estate, leaves it vulnerable to exploitation by any number of actors, be it the CIA, or just the billionaires who own them and their friends. I don't have to even look down the rabbit hole you're suggesting to end up at pretty much the same conclusion. We are awash in propaganda. We have to read as critically as we can.

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    another example of 'dumbing down' SCI-FI ...

    the awful new DOCTOR WHO was deliberately wrecked from the top of the BBC ...






    WHY THE POWER ELITE KILLED OFF CLASSIC DOCTOR WHO:

    The alien who came to earth in a Time Machine phone booth who

    fought injustice since 1963

    (and appeared on TV screens the same week JFK died ...




    To give SCI-FI fans of Doctor Who and readers of Epic and some idea of how THE POWER ELITE and Corporate Conglomerates exert CENSORSHIP AND CONTROL over the social and poitical messages put forth in Heroic Fantasy series, you can see more evidence of this than by simply reading Michael Moorcocks essays 'Starship Stormtroopers' and 'Epic Pooh,' as I refferred to before in previous pages.



    Doctor Who had built a long respectable reputation for a SCI-FI Epic TV series that tackled many serious threats to modern 20th century society - nuclear wars, meltdowns, accidents, poverty, homelessness, starvation, dictatorships, warmongering megalomaniac bureaucrats, mind controlling mass producing of drugs, poisoned environments, and pollution as well as 'future shock' hypothetical scenarios far ahead of their time, and far more effectively than Twilight Zone, Star Trek, Star Wars, Outer Limits or Hollywood EVER did.


    But when Sixth Doctor Colin Baker took over the lead role on BBCs classic Doctor Who saga in 1984 - the writers tackled such issues as torture on television as a tool to mollify the masses, (Vengeance On Varos), starvation and culling populations to keep social order (The Mysterious Planet), according to some accounts the BBC retaliated ...

    "a copy of “The Mysterious Planet” was sent to Jonathan Powell for his consideration, as was routine. Much to the production team's dismay, however, Powell's response on February 24th was scathing. In an unusually detailed commentary, he took issue with several aspects of “The Mysterious Planet”, including the slow reveal of the trial scenario, the lack of clarity as to the nature of the crisis on Ravolox, and the extent of the Doctor's involvement in its resolution. Most frustratingly for Nathan-Turner, Powell seemed to contradict Grade's edict that humour feature more prominently ..."

    Michael Grade simply despised the show, and was wanting to kill it off. He had already cancelled it, and was shocked with the response. The "low ratings" argument is a myth. Grade hated Doctor Who and Colin Baker period. Anything else is a smokescreen eg. "Violence", "low ratings", "Close Encounters" etc.



    The creation of a new BBC soap opera called 'Eastenders'. The only way to make this financially possible was to postpone all BBC Drama programmes that were set to enter production in the next six months. Among these was the originally-planned Season 23 of Doctor Who(in fact filming on "The Nightmare fair" was due to start in only ten days, before Grade was his decision known). This was greeted with overwhelmingly negative responses. Doctor Who's postponement was Front Page Headline News. The BBC Board of Governors even called Grade in to defend himself. In September 1986 the new Season 23 finally aired(down to 14 25 minute episodes due to the money required to fund Eastenders and Daytime TV). It was met with a mixed reaction, and most people blamed Michael Grade. Again, Grade had to defend himself to the BBC Board of Governors.




    Colin Baker above , the last good Doctor Who

    All the excuses BBC controller gave for firing Colin Baker turned out to be HUGE LIES:

    Michael Grade was Controller of BBC1. In early 1985 he took the decision to move forward by over a year both the debut of daytime television on BBC1, as well as the creation of a new BBC soap opera called 'Eastenders'. The only way to make this financially possible was to postpone all BBC Drama programmes that were set to enter production in the next six months. Among these was the originally-planned Season 23 of Doctor Who(in fact filming on "The Nightmare fair" was due to start in only ten days, before Grade was his decision known). This was greeted with overwhelmingly negative responses. Doctor Who's postponement was Front Page Headline News. The BBC Board of Governors even called Grade in to defend himself. In September 1986 the new Season 23 finally aired(down to 14 25 minute episodes due to the money required to fund Eastenders and Daytime TV). It was met with a mixed reaction, and most people blamed Michael Grade. Again, Grade had to defend himself to the BBC Board of Governors. At the same time, Grade was dating Liza Goddard. Goddard was Colin Baker's ex-wife. The pair had had an acrimonious divorce, with most people taking Colin Baker's side. Grade hit upon a solution to his problem, as well as a way of pleasing his girlfriend...make Colin Baker a scapegoat. Grade blamed Doctor Who's problems(falsely claiming declining ratings) entirely on Baker. He publically apologised for postponing the show, claiming he was wrong to blame Doctor Who as a whole, when it was all down to the actor playing the Doctor being "rubbish". In this way the fans got an apology for the postponement, Grade's girlfriend was pleased, and Grade himself was seen to be making amends for something he had never even thought about when he made the decision to bring forward Daytime Television and Eastenders! Producer John Nathan fought to keep Colin Baker as the Doctor, but Grade was insistent that Baker MUST be fired.


    In Doctor Who Magazine #338 Gary Downie(the Production Manager in 1985) stated: There's a history between Michael Grade and Colin. Liza Goddard was Colin's wife. And she was Michael Grade's best friend. The divorce was acrimonious and she moved into Michael Grade's house while she was getting over the divorce. And I'll say no more. Michael Grade was determined. He did not want Colin working for the BBC.


    "The exact details vary depending on who tells the story, but ultimately, BBC Controller Michael Grade ordered the producers to fire Colin Baker because ratings were down, complaints were up, polls showed him to be unpopular in the role, etc."

    "Ratings were much higher than under Mccoy, and actually higher than Hartnell or Troughton(when there were fewer channels). The "violence" argument is also bollocks, as at the same time BBC Childrens' Television was making shows that were at least as violent(eg. Oliver Twist). And what about the excessive Mccoy-era violence? And what polls? Using how many people? And there have always been complaints about Doctor Who, with the Tom Baker-era getting the highest concentration of complaints."

    ......


    KiLLING THE MESSAGE OF THE GREATEST SCI-FI SHOW
    AND HIRING A PROFESSIONAL CLOWN TO KILL OFF THE
    DOCTOR WHO FANBASE WITH IDIOTIC, MEANINGLESS PLOTS ...

    In the case of BBCs DOCTOR WHO brought in THE POWER ELITE in the form of Michael Grade who hired an unknown nite-club clown, and pantomime improv actor Sylvester McCoy as Michael Grade was Controller of BBC1 steadily dumbed down all programs:

    "It was announced in February 1985 that the next series of Doctor Who, scheduled to run from January 1986, would be postponed as Grade had decided that the programme's budget would be better spent on other drama productions.[24] What became an 18-month hiatus for Doctor Who (the series did not resume until September 1986) prompted a strong reaction from viewers"

    "He phased out some of its more high-brow programming, for which he was accused of "dumbing down"; Grade retorted that in the same week that he moved to Channel 4, it had shown a repeat of the 1984 adaptation of The Far Pavilions, featuring American actress Amy Irving "blacked up" as an Indian princess. During this period, he was also attacked by the conservative press: Daily Mail columnist Paul Johnson dubbed him Britain's "pornographer-in-chief".



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Grade
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    And speaking of SCI-FI and Fantasy adventures being turned into Government propaganda -

    how bad does the new Doctor Who suck with awful SJW messages ?

    ("hey look how I'm cool, I put homosexual characters")


    Now - w/ the new doctor to be a woman, and the whole #metoo bit, it's going to be an even more pretentious - if that's possible - PR DISASTER, and politicized as well.

    Intentional 'divide and conquer' between the sexes for the the Meryl Streep / Katy Perry, Hillary Clinton booster club women for Prez ... or some 'empower women' ratings gimmick ?

    The ERA admendment thing, was like so 1970s - ladies, we all got the message.

    But Remember - this is Great Britains BBC - DOCTOR WHO.

    (Not the usual source - puerile HOLLYWOOD )

    But my grandma was a full Brit from Norton Canes, Staffordshire, England.

    And I know the culture, this type of imported 'identity politics' is not their
    style at all, esp. in the new Doctor Who or any Brit TV for that matter.









    So - for those of you not keeping up -

    just HOW BAD is the new Doctor Who ???


    (which premiered again in 2005)



    The 2017 season final of Peter Capaldi and his dreadful over-acted and over dramatic, unfunny, nonsensical portrayal of the hero reportedly got 3.75 million viewers in overnight ratings. These numbers ARE FAR LOWER than Sylvester McCoy received when Doctor Who was first cancelled in 1989.

    This is by an actor , WHO, even if he DID have a script, is more than capable of performing, but since the BBC cannot produce an action packed story or any cohesive plot lines, it is worthless. The season final the Master who becomes a woman, Cybermen that stand around doing nothing, and a convoluted trap set for the Doctor even the nerdiest dorks hanging on every word cannot possibly understand. Then - at the last minute, the Master changes his/her mind, and decides to save the Doctor, and thru some last minute hocus pocus BS the Cybermen are all short circuited all at once.

    Previously, Rotten Tomatoes - whose credibility is worthless - had to grudgingly give the Doctor Who (w/ Capaldi) previous season finale in 2015 a passing grade, though even the nerd SCI FI websites noted the many plot holes,never ending boring talking, no action story, in "Hell Bent" which brought back the Galifreyans, The Sisterhood of Karn, and the old TARDIS console room.

    These were all obvious gimmicks to attack fans, but got just over 4 milllion viewers, AGAIN FAR BELOW the worst Doctor Who ever portrayed, the universally despised, (and cheapened) silly Sylvester McCoy era.



    GO AWAY !

    In case you still give a rip about Doctor Who after the last two unbearably bad 60 minute season finales, this was Series 10 since the horrid new revival, which genuine, classic Doctor Who fans should NOT COUNT AS LEGIT. They should be regarded the same way as we regard the lexicon of new non- George Lucas Star Wars, as a cheap, hackneyed cashing in, dip into your wallet, designed to rip off audiences everywhere.




    I must say - that I am a uniquely patient fellow who will scour thru libraries looking for rare biographies, (read 10 on Hemingway, 3 on H.S. Thompson, 2 on Poe, 6 on Lovecraft, and 1 on Bowie) and will spend hours hunting a dozen libraries, reading pulp Fantasy, Sci Fi , and all types of Non-Fiction and Novels.

    This Doctor Who revival is the most singularly boring tripe amd waste of time ever concocted by any Fantasy storytellers anywhere, by far.

    I've stomached the poor attempt to revive The Sword of Shannara Trilogy, tried pushing past the first three Piers Anthony 'On a Pale Horse' series, went as far the first 12 Conan Robert E. Howard books, many Douglas Adams books, Karl Wagners "Blood Red" Kane books, up to "The Priest Kings of Gor" (while Michael Moorcocks 'Dancers at the End of Time' Trilogy is still my favorite) as are the Hawkmoon, Elric, Corum, Castle Brass, Silver Warriors, Eternal Champion books ... and so forth ...

    But after after trying to sit thru a dickish Matt Smith Doctor Who episode w/ multi colored Daleks (ugh, the pointy lights ontop made them look like toys already), stupidly inane plots and titles like "Let's Kill Hitler" a Master who is neither cunning, engaging, malevolent, or charasmatic, Cybermen who stand around and die easily, an over emphasis on empty, thoughtless, romanticism, as a substitute for adventure and action, the hammy unconvincing David Tennant school of acting mimicked badly by every player on the show, (next up a woman Doctor Who - um spare me the politically correct speeches Bill Maher got cancelled 20 years ago, and feminism took off in 1975) and hordes of aliens (Rise Of The Cybermen / The Age Of Steel, Journey's End, Doomsday,The End Of Time) appearing, then defeated thru some last minute gimmick, the equivalent of waving a magic wand, and mean old Timothy Dalton (overacting as an evil Rassilon) goes poof.





    Real fans of Doctor Who recall Timelord Rassilon as the good guy in the classic THE FIVE DOCTORS, 20th anniversary episode (1983) aye - a truely memorable show getting 7.7 million viewers, and still regarded as fantastic.


    BBC ruined Doctor Who - and I believe they did so purposefully.




    Time to close the console room - for good.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Panzareta View Post
    Reagan being a GE salesman must have been especially high on your mind control list.


    Eh, Reagan was a dummy.

    A puppet President while in office.


    A rat on so called 'Hollywood commies'


    F__k that scumbag, dips__t.


    Document: 1985 Mercury News article, ‘Reagan acted as informant for FBI’

    "By Scott Herhold

    As a budding politician in Hollywood’s acting community after World War II, Ronald Reagan served as a confidential informant for the FBI, according to records released by the bureau.

    The FBI documents, obtained by the Mercury News in a freedom- of-information request, show that Reagan — identified as “T-10” — kept agents informed about pro-Communist influences in the Screen Actors Guild and other Hollywood organizations."


    https://www.mercurynews.com/2010/11/...rmant-for-fbi/

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    and Teletubbies promote homosexuality among toddlers.
    Homosexual toddlers... that's funny.

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    Wow, conspiracies in Star Wars now.

    Did you know that a Batman movie predicted the Aurora shooting?

    I kid you not, people actually believe this drivel.
    Quote Originally Posted by PACE View Post
    and Teletubbies promote homosexuality among toddlers.
    Quote Originally Posted by BitterPill View Post
    Homosexual toddlers... that's funny.




    It's not like conspiracies to 'dumb down' the movies, TV series, and news coverage don't exist.

    It's day one textbook fact in Sociology 101 college courses. Corporatism is not broadcasting in your interest, but in the interest of conglomerates.

    (sorry to burst your bubble)

    .....


    Reagans deliberate escalation of the nuclear arms race against Russia, the issue had everyone on
    edge during the 1980s, and was reflected in shows like Doctor Who. The fears about Reagan senile, and a puppet, hitting the button were very real.

    In class, a student asked our Middle School class teacher if she thought there would be a nuclear war. We were all around 12 - it was 1983. Doctor Who addressed this in Warriors From The Deep. (and many other episodes)

    The teacher had a suprised look of disbelief that some kid raised their hand and asked it. I looked across the room, the history class kids faces were petrified. The teacher could not hide her own fears. You could hear a pin drop on the carpeted floor.

    "Oh noooo," she insisted. "There will be no nuclear war," he look of fear suddenly changed, and she shook her head.

    The class let out a collective gasp of relief, but when the bell rang minutes later, we all were muttering, "you hope so" or had our own doubts about her
    assurance.



    Shows are cancelled for political reasons all the time, film scripts altered by the powers that be. Its govmnt censorship. Pure and simple.



    The real villains of 1980s DOCTOR WHO
    by Tom Pheby


    "It's very difficult to write a piece about Michael Grade's involvement in the demise of Doctor Who without being ridiculously hostile towards him. The cigar puffing Yoda lookalike who assumed the roll of controller at the BBC in 1984 seemed to take an instant dislike to the series, hacking the budget and forcing it to take an 18 month hiatus between 1985 -1986. He alleged that the show had lost viewers, become too violent and lacked imagination. He went on to add that the long running series had become tired and needed a rest if it were to continue for another 21 years, but this was merely a smokescreen to disguise the fact that he wanted Doctor Who to end.​"

    The real villains of 1980s DOCTOR WHO | Warped Factor - Words in the Key of Geek.


    Try watching the Colin Baker era in Revelaton of the Daleks


    ... now that was a classic !






    Just try reading thru these lame stories of THE NEW DOCTOR WHO ,the BBC producers,the cast, and crew, hate the genre and Doctor Who - isn't it obvious ?

    It's so deliberately "dumbed down" w/ 'identity politics' rather than real issues.

    One CANNOT ARGUE with The TARDIS DATA CORE !

    Series 10 finale The Doctor Falls:

    The TARDIS DATA CORE

    The Doctor Falls (TV story) | Tardis | FANDOM powered by Wikia

    "The Master" | Tardis | FANDOM powered by Wikia




    " Maybe we could try confusing the alien. Fill it with useless information. I wonder, does anyone have a television set handy ?"

    - Patrick Troughton, as The Doctor


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