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    Quote Originally Posted by bmanmcfly View Post
    The pizza gate thing is quite freaky the more you look into it.

    At least, if the fbi is correct about the code words, looks like Obama is interested in consenting age men.

    The problem is that it would be too easy to have people using code words that they are not aware of the significance and so you could be libelling people unwittingly .
    This shouldn't go away simply because Blueneck tells us there is nothing freaky going on.

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    bmanmcfly is right. there's so much gray area with the code words that it's hard to winnow the wheat from the chaff. that's why i'd really like someone professional to look at it who didn't already have some sort of axe to grind. i went looking through the wikileaks podesta pizza emails and they mostly look totally innocuous. there are just a few that seem hinky, like the map-handkerchief one, but you know, there could totally be a logical explanation. it pretty quickly gets to be above my pay grade.

    i could give a shit what "Know Your Meme" or Snopes thinks about it though. they obviously have put no thought into it, and no legitimate research, whatsoever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaos View Post
    This shouldn't go away simply because Blueneck tells us there is nothing freaky going on.
    I agree, this should not just go away...

    At the least, this is something seemingly sketchy but is overall innocuous, maybe just blackmail... but it potentially gets to devil worship, pedophilia and even potentially human sacrifice and cannibalism.

    This should be looked into is all I'm willing to say at this point....

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    Quote Originally Posted by highway234 View Post
    bmanmcfly is right. there's so much gray area with the code words that it's hard to winnow the wheat from the chaff. that's why i'd really like someone professional to look at it who didn't already have some sort of axe to grind. i went looking through the wikileaks podesta pizza emails and they mostly look totally innocuous. there are just a few that seem hinky, like the map-handkerchief one, but you know, there could totally be a logical explanation. it pretty quickly gets to be above my pay grade.

    i could give a shit what "Know Your Meme" or Snopes thinks about it though. they obviously have put no thought into it, and no legitimate research, whatsoever.
    Ya... snipes and the other professional debunkers all have this habit where it seems they draw a conclusion and only mention the evidence to back their case.

    I also agree that, with what is known so far, (apologizes to those who have looked deeper than I already, sorry, stuff against kids makes me blood red mad) it's a dangerous prospect to start tossing accusations, because we don't know if a person is using a term nefariously or innocuously.

    However, it's dangerous to let this just slip under the rug.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bmanmcfly View Post
    I agree, this should not just go away...

    At the least, this is something seemingly sketchy but is overall innocuous, maybe just blackmail... but it potentially gets to devil worship, pedophilia and even potentially human sacrifice and cannibalism.

    This should be looked into is all I'm willing to say at this point....
    I hate being this cynical but I believe that is part of secret society. Looting the treasury and starting wars gets boring after awhile. Power comes from ritual, especially sacrifice and ritual drinking the blood or eating the flesh. That goes back 5000 years or more. It's part of royal tradition.

    But the ultimate power is being able to blatantly flaunt who you are and what you can get away with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by highway234 View Post
    and yet we have to hear the most insane shit from the ex-progressives in the corporate democratic movement about russia and putin whacking everyone in sight, influencing our election in various impossible ways, and basically running the entire world in secret.

    alefantis is getting trolled online. it happens to people. the post's reflexive defense of them is odd.

    there are some very strange aspects to this pizzagate story, and neither the post, the NY Times, or snopes addresses them at all. they simply poo-poo the whole thing as ridiculous on its face (there's more evidence for it than there is for this silly Putin stuff) but it's clear the mainstream press will never address them. valid stories about corruption in government will always get ignored in this kind of environment, because the mainstream press and the government are in blatant cahoots.

    it's all a matter of how willing you are to believe anything the establishment press says, and distrust anything your political opposition says. the ex-progressives' reflexive willingness to believe outlets like the post and the times is plain. it's why the NY Times was able to peddle the iraq war to us.
    National security advisers confirmed the Russian hacking so I don't know why that's even an issue.

    And so I can put you down as beveling in absurd conspiracy theories now too because you don't want to take anything the "establishment" press says?

    Ok then.
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    Sounds like the Evil Genius in an Austin Powers movie....
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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    National security advisers confirmed the Russian hacking so I don't know why that's even an issue.
    it's an issue because they provided no evidence. after iraq i no longer trust government pronouncements on their own.

    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    And so I can put you down as beveling in absurd conspiracy theories now too because you don't want to take anything the "establishment" press says?

    Ok then.
    put me down as whatever you like. i could care less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by highway234 View Post
    it's an issue because they provided no evidence. after iraq i no longer trust government pronouncements on their own.



    put me down as whatever you like. i could care less.
    So now you going to believe that stupid shit like Pizza gate could be real?

    Comet Ping Pong Pizzeria Home to Child Abuse Ring Led by Hillary Clinton : snopes.com

    It's false.

    These people where stalking and harassing an innocent family - and you seem to be ok with that.

    That's really messed up on your part. I don't think you would appreciate it if was you getting the death threats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmanmcfly View Post
    Ya... snipes and the other professional debunkers all have this habit where it seems they draw a conclusion and only mention the evidence to back their case.

    I also agree that, with what is known so far, (apologizes to those who have looked deeper than I already, sorry, stuff against kids makes me blood red mad) it's a dangerous prospect to start tossing accusations, because we don't know if a person is using a term nefariously or innocuously.

    However, it's dangerous to let this just slip under the rug.
    Congrats - it's looks like you have fellow tin foil hate members here that you can exchange stupid shit with.
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