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    Fox News, fringe media outlets, and fake news purveyors echoed New York Post columnist Paul Sperry’s claims that former President Barack Obama is establishing a “shadow government” through his nonprofit organization Organizing for Action (OFA), with an “army of agitators -- numbering more than 30,000” -- to organize protests against, and to “sabotage,” President Donald Trump. Sperry has a history of pushing falsehoods, misleading claims, and anti-Muslim conspiracy theories. A similar claim about an Obama “shadow government” was also made on Fox by discredited author Ed Klein in December 2016.

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    Is there any proof that Mr Obama is encouraging those types of activities? If so, then the claims are valid. If not, then the Trump camp is engaging in fake news of its own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zephyr View Post
    Is there any proof that Mr Obama is encouraging those types of activities? If so, then the claims are valid. If not, then the Trump camp is engaging in fake news of its own.
    Has there been any proof offered up that supports these Blame Obama accusations?
    It's not a matter of "if" there is proof..it a matter of "is" there any proof what so ever to back up the accusations?
    My guess is no..just like they can't offer any proof to back up their voter fraud claims..completely fake..or in other more honest words..outright lies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jacobfitcher View Post
    Fox News, fringe media outlets, and fake news purveyors echoed New York Post columnist Paul Sperry’s claims that former President Barack Obama is establishing a “shadow government” through his nonprofit organization Organizing for Action (OFA), with an “army of agitators -- numbering more than 30,000” -- to organize protests against, and to “sabotage,” President Donald Trump. Sperry has a history of pushing falsehoods, misleading claims, and anti-Muslim conspiracy theories. A similar claim about an Obama “shadow government” was also made on Fox by discredited author Ed Klein in December 2016.

    Pro-Trump Propaganda Outlets Are Blaming An Obama Shadow Government For Massive Anti-Trump Protests
    Ironically you cite a fringe media outlet as your proof.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zephyr View Post
    Is there any proof that Mr Obama is encouraging those types of activities? If so, then the claims are valid. If not, then the Trump camp is engaging in fake news of its own.
    Noooo!

    Good grief talk about naive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacobfitcher View Post
    Fox News, fringe media outlets, and fake news purveyors echoed New York Post columnist Paul Sperry’s claims that former President Barack Obama is establishing a “shadow government” through his nonprofit organization Organizing for Action (OFA), with an “army of agitators -- numbering more than 30,000” -- to organize protests against, and to “sabotage,” President Donald Trump. Sperry has a history of pushing falsehoods, misleading claims, and anti-Muslim conspiracy theories. A similar claim about an Obama “shadow government” was also made on Fox by discredited author Ed Klein in December 2016.

    Pro-Trump Propaganda Outlets Are Blaming An Obama Shadow Government For Massive Anti-Trump Protests

    "A delusion is a belief that is held with strong conviction despite superior evidence to the contrary. As a pathology, it is distinct from a belief based on false or incomplete information, confabulation, dogma, illusion, or other effects of perception."

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    One might see how depressing (and something they might want to deny and delude themselves about) it might be for some, that a "Great Recession" coming under the watch of a neo republican president that was warned about and had become President in his first term by a single vote on the SCOTUS over time needed to come up with an "equal standard" for recounting votes in the one state of 50 where the "elected" (by the SCOTUS) "winner's" brother was governor and the Secretary of State (the person who certifies the vote) was the former co-chair of the Bush for President campaign in that state.

    To then have an event like 9/11/01 occur almost 9 months into that "Presidency", made up reasons to invade a nation that was NOT involved in the 9/11 attacks, the invasion based on that constructed information and then protracted war, deferred costs for the war, record prices for gasoline and finally that "Great Recession" and a successor President from the opposition party actually doing some positive things for America, in spite of obstruction and claims to be the worst President ever by so many of those who had just supported one of the worst ever, if not the worst (GWB), one might see how it could drive some people to have some symptoms of denial and delusion and to begin imagining things that are not there, like a dishonest free media, a President born in Kenya, Muslim terrorists being a bigger threat than non-Muslim Americans murdering one another annually, the system is "rigged"...Thousands and thousands of Muslims in NJ cheering the fall of the WTC...The Electoral College being "a disaster for democracy" the whole of the U.S. intelligence community was lying about Russian hacking and involvement in our election.....Flynn is totally honest.....and the list goes on. All False statements involving Donald Trump | PolitiFact

    No, Mr. Obama, like all Presidents, was not perfect and had his own set of imperfections to deal with, but in the comparison, one would have to escape from reality to think they were great or greater than his predecessor or some other Presidents in the past.

    Therein lies how we got to the potential reality that the
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    There is ALWAYS a "Shadow Government."

    Called "FREE WILL OF THE PEOPLE."

    Now, certainly this "Shadow Government" causes problems for those at the top levels.

    Always, has, always will.

    Any lingering "Shadows" of the Obama Regime, can easily be cased away by shining some light at them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacobfitcher View Post
    Fox News, fringe media outlets, and fake news purveyors echoed New York Post columnist Paul Sperry’s claims that former President Barack Obama is establishing a “shadow government” through his nonprofit organization Organizing for Action (OFA), with an “army of agitators -- numbering more than 30,000” -- to organize protests against, and to “sabotage,” President Donald Trump. Sperry has a history of pushing falsehoods, misleading claims, and anti-Muslim conspiracy theories. A similar claim about an Obama “shadow government” was also made on Fox by discredited author Ed Klein in December 2016.

    Pro-Trump Propaganda Outlets Are Blaming An Obama Shadow Government For Massive Anti-Trump Protests
    The really stupid members of my party will eat this up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puzzling Evidence View Post
    The really stupid members of my party will eat this up!
    Threads been up for 8 days and nobody is eating it up yet...

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    Threads been up for 8 days and nobody is eating it up yet...
    One comment = eating it up.

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