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    Are you missing the fact that Fake News was part of the Russian campaign strategy? Pizza gate stories, the false claims of the Clinton families foundation and now the most recent misinformation that Mr. Rich was killed by DNC operatives. This is part of the Russian mis information campaign in fake stories that they either start themselves or pick up from fringe cites and help spread through social media and fool Americans in believing they are real. If that's not illegal, it should be illegal. The spreading of fake news and the planting of fake news to make one candidate more appealing than the other should be punishable by law especially if traced back to foreign powers and helped by Americans that knew the stories were fake and spread it anyway. Sowing the seeds of doubt and wedging their fake news in every corner they could find was a deliberate and conscience attempt in undermining the trust Americans have in every major institutions that America relies on to ensure the system works and corruption doesn't thrive like it does in Russia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bmanmcfly View Post
    You've not met many criminals in your life, have you? (Don't worry, it's probably more good than bad if that's the case)

    I've not seen anything about that, but walk me through this, I punch at you with a gun, how do the bullets get into my back?
    There were signs of a struggle so when the guy with the gun gets the chance and the other man is injured and on the floor you shot him and run to avoid him getting back up and over powered you instead. Plus if you two continue fighting you increase the chances of being scene by a third party. Do you have the powers of thinking logically for yourself or do you need a script to what is plausible in real life?

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    Quote Originally Posted by THOR View Post
    I'm interested in law enforcement solving this case. I want to know how they wrote it off as a robbery. Don't you? I'd like to know what's on his computer.
    Why, who are you, a family member? The family members have every right to ask for their son's personal belongings. If they felt it wasn't examined for evidence or it would be a clue into their sone's death don't you think they would be screaming for it in the press? To bad you want to know what's on it but the family is under no obligation to satisfy your curiosity and they don't share you nut job conspiracy theories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OHjulie View Post
    I'm interested in the steps you take to confirm or debunk conspiracies.
    Care to share?

    Never followed the story.

    But if the murder is still unsolved what exactly has ever been debunked...??

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    Quote Originally Posted by pragmatic View Post
    Never followed the story.

    But if the murder is still unsolved what exactly has ever been debunked...??
    Wheeler ( was a Donald Trump supporter, a paid Fox News contributor, and according to NBC News had "developed a reputation for making outlandish claims, such as one appearance on Fox News in 2007 in which he warned that underground networks of pink pistol-toting lesbian gangs were raping young women). He was under contract with Rich’s family but was being paid by a third party, was the only named source in the Fox News report was always problematic. Wheeler’s claims were based on secondhand information, and he has a reputation for spreading baseless conspiracy theories in his role as a Fox News contributor.

    FBI was not involved in the investigation and had never examined Rich’s laptop, contrary to what Fox News said it had been told by an anonymous federal investigator. Wheeler later backtracked on his original claims.

    A week after publishing a thinly sourced, conspiracy-peddling article that linked slain Democratic National Committee staffer Seth Rich to Wikileaks, Fox News has issued a retraction and removed the story from its website.

    What else do you need to prove that the story about Rich being killed by the DNC was bull shit? The original people spreading the fake story are saying it's fake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eve1 View Post
    There were signs of a struggle so when the guy with the gun gets the chance and the other man is injured and on the floor you shot him and run to avoid him getting back up and over powered you instead. Plus if you two continue fighting you increase the chances of being scene by a third party. Do you have the powers of thinking logically for yourself or do you need a script to what is plausible in real life?
    I see you've likely never been in a physical fight either.

    First, none of that prevents a robber, most often for drug money, from securing what he was willing to shoot someone over.

    Second, shooting someone in the back is attempted murder bare minimum.

    Third, once he's shot in the back, he's not getting back up quickly, if at all.. You could put a foot on their back or any other way to prevent that while patting the pockets.

    Your version makes no logical sense... It might make sense in the mind of a rational, law abiding citizen. It does NOT make sense when you consider the mentality of a criminal, not that I'm a criminologist or anything... But in my youth, I was about as close to some gangs as you can get without having to join, so, when you've talked to people who would be willing to cold cock a child because they wanted his apple, you'd quickly see some of the missing perspective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmanmcfly View Post
    I see you've likely never been in a physical fight either.

    First, none of that prevents a robber, most often for drug money, from securing what he was willing to shoot someone over.

    Second, shooting someone in the back is attempted murder bare minimum.

    Third, once he's shot in the back, he's not getting back up quickly, if at all.. You could put a foot on their back or any other way to prevent that while patting the pockets.

    Your version makes no logical sense... It might make sense in the mind of a rational, law abiding citizen. It does NOT make sense when you consider the mentality of a criminal, not that I'm a criminologist or anything... But in my youth, I was about as close to some gangs as you can get without having to join, so, when you've talked to people who would be willing to cold cock a child because they wanted his apple, you'd quickly see some of the missing perspective.
    1st=I don't care if your Al Capone and as cool as a cucumber, a criminal will get rattled and get desperate if he fears getting caught.
    2nd=Who said he shoot the guy and it wasn't murder? I certainly didn't.
    3rd=Who said he expected the guy to get up after shooting him? I certainly didn't say that. More likely the thief and Rich got into a fist fight and Rich ended up face down, then the thief shot him, so he wouldn't be able to get up.

    I like that you make up an answer to scenarios that weren't even posted. It seems to me just your way of batting away the actual responses to your posts. Thanks for playing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eve1 View Post
    1st=I don't care if your Al Capone and as cool as a cucumber, a criminal will get rattled and get desperate if he fears getting caught.
    2nd=Who said he shoot the guy and it wasn't murder? I certainly didn't.
    3rd=Who said he expected the guy to get up after shooting him? I certainly didn't say that. More likely the thief and Rich got into a fist fight and Rich ended up face down, then the thief shot him, so he wouldn't be able to get up.

    I like that you make up an answer to scenarios that weren't even posted. It seems to me just your way of batting away the actual responses to your posts. Thanks for playing.
    This is all speculation. We don't know the autopsy report, ballistics, crime scene forensics. Don't like cops speculating about a murder...botched robbery. For it to be called a robbery, botched or otherwise, there needs to be evidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eve1 View Post
    1st=I don't care if your Al Capone and as cool as a cucumber, a criminal will get rattled and get desperate if he fears getting caught.
    2nd=Who said he shoot the guy and it wasn't murder? I certainly didn't.
    3rd=Who said he expected the guy to get up after shooting him? I certainly didn't say that. More likely the thief and Rich got into a fist fight and Rich ended up face down, then the thief shot him, so he wouldn't be able to get up.

    I like that you make up an answer to scenarios that weren't even posted. It seems to me just your way of batting away the actual responses to your posts. Thanks for playing.
    1- not that simple. In that instance if the criminal is feeling fear and something comes up that fear will turn to aggression. If the person is angry / desperate that surprise will turn to fear. The distinction, NOT THE CRIMINAL FIRING HIS OWN WEAPON.

    2- you misread what I said... By such a margin that it'd be cumbersome to explain

    3- you did... When you said that shooting hi in the back would scare off a would be robber because the guy might get back up and keep fighting. But, you see, when your story needs to get THIS convoluted that even you are not even able to follow, something is off...

    It's all within the scenario presented, a man walking down the street confronted by a robber with a gun. The situation ending with the robber shooting the victim and running off without taking anything. If you can't play around with the variables a little bit, then how would you test the veracity of the claims?

    Btw, your bottom paragraph is an unintended concession that it was more consistent with a hit than a robbery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THOR View Post
    A robbery based on WHAT? Official story ???? High dollar items not taken. Is this some sort of negative logic?
    < sigh > "Attempted robbery" then. These things don't always go as planned. Gun goes off, perpetrator flees.

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