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    Quote Originally Posted by BitterPill View Post
    How come the Van Allen Belts didn't interfere with the filming of 2001?
    Because it was done on a soundstage?

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    Kubrick could and he did.

    Look what he did with 2001.

    He also left little easter eggs about it in some movies, especially The Shining.
    Arthur C. Clark said that if he knew they were going to end up dragging their feet on the space program like this he would have titled the book: 2101 A Space Odyssey.

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    Arthur C. Clark said that if he knew they were going to end up dragging their feet on the space program like this he would have titled the book: 2101 A Space Odyssey.

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    Ha, didn't know that one.

    If you watch The Shining there is a scene where you can see Hal.
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    Now, here is a website that addresses many of these notions about the Van Allen Belts:

    "The Van Allen belts are full of deadly radiation, and anyone passing through them would be fried.

    Needless to say this is a very simplistic statement. Yes, there is deadly radiation in the Van Allen belts, but the nature of that radiation was known to the Apollo engineers and they were able to make suitable preparations. The principle danger of the Van Allen belts is high-energy protons, which are not that difficult to shield against. And the Apollo navigators plotted a course through the thinnest parts of the belts and arranged for the spacecraft to pass through them quickly, limiting the exposure."

    "It would require six feet (two meters) of lead in order to shield from the Van Allen belts. The Apollo spacecraft had nowhere near this amount of shielding and so could not have provided the astronauts adequate protection.

    The "six feet of lead" statistic appears in many conspiracist charges, but no one has yet owned up to being the definitive source of that figure. In fact, six feet (2 m) of lead would probably shield against a very large atomic explosion, far in excess of the normal radiation encountered in space or in the Van Allen belts.

    While such drastic measures are needed to shield against intense, high-frequency electromagnetic radiation, that is not the nature of the radiation in the Van Allen belts. In fact, because the Van Allen belts are composed of high-energy protons and high-energy electrons, metal shielding is actually counterproductive because of the Bremsstrahlung that would be induced.

    Metals can be used to shield against particle radiation, but they are not the ideal substance. Polyethylene is the choice of particle shielding today, and various substances were available to the Apollo engineers to absorb Van Allen radiation. The fibrous insulation between the inner and outer hulls of the command module was likely the most effective form of radiation shielding. When metals must be used in spacecraft (e.g., for structural strength) then a lighter metal such as aluminum is better than heavier metals such as steel or lead. The lower the atomic number, the less Bremsstrahlung. "

    And much more at the link!

    Clavius: Environment - radiation and the van allen belts

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    The stupidity of it...O.M.G.
    He or she is here just to get a rise out of people and you guys respond to him. Why?
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    What you are saying is that back then we had the technology to know the precise location of the belts and exactly where to send the astronauts through to get the minimal exposure.

    We didn't.

    Plus, the belts are in flux, they aren't stationary.

    Even going through the smallest part is about the equivalent of two CT scans. In order to find the smaller parts you must send up probes, which NASA did not do. They had probed it earlier, shortly after discovering it, but not in preparation for the mission. (the first one)

    This means that they either got really, really, lucky or that the first Apollo mission never went. We would have seen radiation sickness on the astronauts.

    Plus we had no idea how much the shielding would prevent, so we got really, really lucky there also.

    It typically takes 8 hours for cells to regenerate for shuttle people who aren't even in the belt after they get back off a short flight and they are using protective equipment far superior to what the Apollo missions had.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    He or she is here just to get a rise out of people and you guys respond to him. Why?
    Oh jesus, just go away.

    We are having a friendly discussion.

    Quit trolling.

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    What you are saying is that back then we had the technology to know the precise location of the belts and exactly where to send the astronauts through to get the minimal exposure.

    We didn't.

    Plus, the belts are in flux, they aren't stationary.

    Even going through the smallest part is about the equivalent of two CT scans. In order to find the smaller parts you must send up probes, which NASA did not do. They had probed it earlier, shortly after discovering it, but not in preparation for the mission. (the first one)

    This means that they either got really, really, lucky or that the first Apollo mission never went. We would have seen radiation sickness on the astronauts.

    Plus we had no idea how much the shielding would prevent, so we got really, really lucky there also.

    It typically takes 8 hours for cells to regenerate for shuttle people who aren't even in the belt after they get back off a short flight and they are using protective equipment far superior to what the Apollo missions had.
    Well, submit your learned paper...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    Actually they are reporting on what Trumps science advisor believes from his writings.
    So, World Nut Daily Writes about the musings of a fool. AND?

    What part of that do you not believe?
    DAFUQ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blues63 View Post
    So, World Nut Daily Writes about the musings of a fool. AND?



    DAFUQ?
    They are writing about the advice the president is getting.

    IF you don't like news then go to Disney.com.

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