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    Quote Originally Posted by SunsetRose View Post
    I believe biological weapons are the wave of the future. So, I'm wondering....was the Ebola virus tested in Africa to see how useful it could be as a weapon?
    Ebola dates back to its discovery 1976. I'm hard-pressed to believe that we had the technology to create viruses in the 1970s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    Anyone wishing to do massive harm would adjust the strains that we can't vaccinate against yet and they would release multiple ones such as bird flu or small pox.

    That would be much easier than creating a new virus.

    By the time we get the vaccinations ready the death toll would be catastrophic.
    Small pox and bird flu are not ideal human killers. They are close, but they don't go from infection to death fast enough.

    OTOH, a very fast killer is also not desirable if the warmonger wants the disease to spread. So, to be perfect, it would have some incubation period where the apparently healthy person would infect others, and then death 24/48 hours later.

    Bubonic plague might be worth working on.

    IDK about anthrax. I think it has a poor rate of transmission by human to human infection, and this is why the warmonger have "weaponized" the spores ( made them tiny, so they would get spread by air more easily.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    Ebola dates back to its discovery 1976. I'm hard-pressed to believe that we had the technology to create viruses in the 1970s.
    The scientific method was there. It's not that different from how the polio vaccine was developed.

    Except for an evil purpose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Sampson Simpson View Post
    THere would be evidence in the DNA of Ebola that would indicate it was man made if that were the case.
    Whut?

    No........not necessarily, anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    Well I could agree with that but obviously it didn't work out very well.

    You just need certain circumstances for it to be effective.

    However that doesn't mean they didn't take their research and use it for the next one.

    This is why I hang out on chat forums, so I can see what's going on in the world and be prepared.

    Keep your eyes and ears open.
    The CDC and its sister organizations around the world, all have libraries of the most nasty organic shit ever found. IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Small pox and bird flu are not ideal human killers. They are close, but they don't go from infection to death fast enough.

    OTOH, a very fast killer is also not desirable if the warmonger wants the disease to spread. So, to be perfect, it would have some incubation period where the apparently healthy person would infect others, and then death 24/48 hours later.

    Bubonic plague might be worth working on.

    IDK about anthrax. I think it has a poor rate of transmission by human to human infection, and this is why the warmonger have "weaponized" the spores ( made them tiny, so they would get spread by air more easily.)
    It depends on the goal.

    Are you looking to kill people or incapacitate a nation?

    Anthrax, I believe, can be made airborne.

    You just need a delivery system and a large group of people, once it incubates it can spread that way.

    The goal would be to get enough people infected at the start.

    I could be wrong on that however.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    The CDC and its sister organizations around the world, all have libraries of the most nasty organic shit ever found. IMO.
    Yes, I'm a big fan of the CDC.

    I can't imagine the shit they have prevented already.

    That is one organization that should have no limit on funding.

    Great people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    The scientific method was there. It's not that different from how the polio vaccine was developed.

    Except for an evil purpose.


    Why fiddle-fart around with microbes, when we already have Daisy Cutters?



    Trust me, they're very effective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    The scientific method was there. It's not that different from how the polio vaccine was developed.

    Except for an evil purpose.
    The technology wasn't there. Restrictions enzymes and PCR weren't discovered/ invented until the 80's,those are the methods for cloning viruses. Polio vaccine was inactivated or attenuated polio virus. it wasn't genetically engineered

    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Whut?

    No........not necessarily, anyway.
    Yes, you would see evidence of humans adding and removing genes to genetically engineer a virus. Restriction enzyme sites, PCR primer sequence, markers. YOu can compare earlier genomes of virus and see how the changes in the DNA of the virus naturally happen, vs if man manipulated the virus genetically, you would see large changes in the sequence, as well as identify markers, restriction enzyme sites, etc.

    HOw do you think viruses are man made if it doesn't use DNA editing technologies?
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    I would honestly go with poison over a virus or disease.

    Food or water would get to more people far more quickly.

    You can at least control the effects with poison.

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