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    Is this why the Parkland shooter was never arrested?

    We've all heard about the 39 calls to law enforcement on the Parkland shooter. Now a good question to ask is why. Why didn't they arrest him? He was in clear violation of several laws at many points and it seemed like everyone except law enforcement at every level knew how dangerous this guy was.
    I submit this knowing full well that it's a conspiracy theory without a whole lot of evidence. But it makes sense.
    Basically the theory is that Miami Dade county started doing something and Broward followed suit. They wanted to reduce their juvenile crime rate, so that they could get increased federal funding and good PR. So to achieve this, the Sheriff's Department basically stopped arresting teenagers.
    It explains a lot. Like that 20 minute delay in the video feed? That wasn't a bug, that was a feature so that they could then go and cover up video evidence of crimes in the school.
    So I'm not sure I completely buy in. But it makes sense.

    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/9...744374784.html

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    What specific crimes did he commit that he would have been arrested for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    What specific crimes did he commit that he would have been arrested for?
    I sure that somewhere in all the assault, stalking, animal abuse, harassment and threats that he did, the cops could have thought of something. It's still illegal to put a gun to someone's head, isn't it?

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    The big question is why there was no arrest or prosecution.

    Three options that I can see:

    -When police arrived, the action didn't rise to the level of an arrest.

    -Lack of a complainant willing to press charges or provide necessary info to warrant arrest.

    -Law enforcement derelict in their duties.

    I don't know yet which of the three. Some of the calls I've seen are pretty common domestic situations that often don't end in arrests. Others seem like they should but may have problems like being reported after the fact without proof. This is one of the biggest parts that needs to be investigated. The info will come out, I'm sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    I sure that somewhere in all the assault, stalking, animal abuse, harassment and threats that he did, the cops could have thought of something. It's still illegal to put a gun to someone's head, isn't it?
    Apparently, no one wanted to press charges.

    In late November, Palm Beach County deputies responded to a battery call after Cruz punched Rock Deschamps, the 22-year-old son of Roxcanne Deschamps, who took him in after his mother died. Rock Deschamps told deputies he didn’t want to press charges.
    In 2012, his mother called police after Cruz hit her with a "plastic hose from the vacuum cleaner," according to a summary of the call.

    The summary noted the "matter resolved. No report initiated."

    The next year Cruz’s mother called again after he threw her against the wall because she took away his Xbox game system.

    A counselor at Henderson Behavioral Health responded and advised that involuntary commitment wasn’t warranted. Cruz "punched the wall because she took away his Xbox" another time, according to a summary of a call to deputies.

    "Deputy responded. No crime identified by deputy," the dispatcher noted.
    The Florida Department of Children and Families launched an investigation into the reported self-cutting and allegations of neglect that same day, according to a DCF report on the incident.

    Authorities chose not to commit Cruz at the time under the Baker Act, a law in Florida that allows authorities to hospitalize people for mental evaluation. The decision came under the advisement of clinicians at Henderson Behavioral Health, which school counselors worried may have been "premature" in their advice, according to the DCF notes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boontito View Post
    The big question is why there was no arrest or prosecution.

    Three options that I can see:

    -When police arrived, the action didn't rise to the level of an arrest.

    -Lack of a complainant willing to press charges or provide necessary info to warrant arrest.

    -Law enforcement derelict in their duties.

    I don't know yet which of the three. Some of the calls I've seen are pretty common domestic situations that often don't end in arrests. Others seem like they should but may have problems like being reported after the fact without proof. This is one of the biggest parts that needs to be investigated. The info will come out, I'm sure.
    In many states, the police don't need a complainant to press charges to arrest someone for domestic violence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    In many states, the police don't need a complainant to press charges to arrest someone for domestic violence.
    True. That does apply to some of those calls but not to others. That's why we need more info. I'd like to know what law enforcement could've done and what they couldn't have done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boontito View Post
    True. That does apply to some of those calls but not to others. That's why we need more info. I'd like to know what law enforcement could've done and what they couldn't have done.

    So far we have seen nothing from law enforcement at all levels that says they deserve the benefit of the doubt. This shooter couldn't have had more red flags on him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    So far we have seen nothing from law enforcement at all levels that says they deserve the benefit of the doubt. This shooter couldn't have had more red flags on him.
    Possibly. I understand your knee jerk reaction. Even somewhat agree on an emotional level. I still would like to see more actual facts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    So far we have seen nothing from law enforcement at all levels that says they deserve the benefit of the doubt. This shooter couldn't have had more red flags on him.
    Apparently red flags at - asaide from just this one car - often enough yet not legal grounds for police to arrest, until an actual crime / assault is committed. If you also can’t force - as in a lot of cases we’re glad one can’t - a ‘suspect’ to get evaluated medically... If LE had the right to at least confiscate firearms from such individuals and their households, if they deem the person dangerous but have no legal way to arrest, a lot of damage could already be avoided.
    Taking guns away from any and all offenders of ‘responsible’ gun ownership, would reduce gun crimes a lot already.

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