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    Quote Originally Posted by Eve1 View Post
    He had already been fired when he made the statement to Congress and turned over the meno to his friend.
    He made the notes while he was Director. He knew they belonged to the government. He also knew they were classified.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronwyn View Post
    He made the notes while he was Director. He knew they belonged to the government. He also knew they were classified.
    why would his notes belong to the government?

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    Quote Originally Posted by the watchman View Post
    why would his notes belong to the government?
    He was writing down what had occurred while he was acting in his capacity as Director of the FBI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronwyn View Post
    He made the notes while he was Director. He knew they belonged to the government. He also knew they were classified.

    Precisely, thus they are government property.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronwyn View Post
    He was writing down what had occurred while he was acting in his capacity as Director of the FBI.
    There is no legal penalty for anything Comey did after he was fired. He did not share classified information with anyone outside the FBI. He had every right to copy memos as FBI director and take them home. As FBI director he would be in possession of hard copy memos and likely electronic documents as well. There is no law that prohibits the FBI director from keeping them in his possession and no law that says he has to return copies of those memos back to the FBI once he stops being Director. He had already turned over all his electronic devices on the day he was fired. His firing included a do not trespass order so he could not go back to the FBI headquarters after he was fired. Maybe Congress should pass a law that says all copies of government documents (classified or other wise) be returned to the gov't on the day that the employee or politician is fired or quits if they don't it's a crime. Right now no such law exists.


    If I have a copy of a document even if the original belongs to the gov't there is no penalty on a private citizen for sharing it as long as it is not classified.

    Note he had the right to share whatever information he wanted as long as it was not classified even as the FBI director. If he had shared unclassified information with anyone outside the FBI while he was still director and the President didn't like it all the President could do was firing anyway=again, I repeat, there is no legal penalty for sharing unclassified gov't information.
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    Former AG Issues Massive Comey Announcement… Now Jail Time on the Table





    https://www.westernjournal.com/ct/co...ce-jail-leaks/
    A couple of things.


    Conservative Tribune



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    Bias: Extreme Right, Propaganda, Conspiracy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eve1 View Post
    There is no legal penalty for anything Comey did after he was fired. He did not share classified information with anyone outside the FBI.

    If I have a copy of a document even if the original belongs to the gov't there is no penalty on a private citizen for sharing it as long as it is not classified.

    Note he had the right to share whatever information he wanted as long as it was not classified even as the FBI director. If he had shared unclassified information with anyone outside the FBI while he was still director and the President didn't like it all the President could do was firing anyway=there is no legal penalty for sharing unclassified gov't information.
    The notion that Comey confessed to something untoward yesterday by acknowledging that he shared memos with a confidant and directed their disclosure to press sources is getting quite a bit of traction, particularly in conservative media. Trump’s personal lawyer, Marc Kasowitz, accused Comey of “leaks of [] privileged information” and went so far as to suggest that “the appropriate authorities” might determine there was criminal conduct worthy of investigation. Kasowitz has now indicated that he plans to file a complaint with the Justice Department’s Office of the Inspector General on Comey’s disclosure of the memo. (It’s not clear what the result of such an investigation would be given that Comey is no longer a government official.)

    There’s just one problem with this line of critique: Comey didn’t actually do anything wrong. In fact, there is nothing to suggest his actions were illegal, unethical, immoral, or otherwise inappropriate


    As a former official, Comey does not have to get permission to speak to the media or coordinate his statements. He can speak to the press directly on whatever terms he likes: on the record, on background, or off the record. He can also share information indirectly, by asking a friend to contact the media on his behalf, as long as there is no duty to keep the information secret. There are many legitimate reasons for sources to request anonymity. Indeed, the First Amendment protects such interactions

    https://lawfareblog.com/sharing-memo...-whistleblower
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    A couple of things.


    Conservative Tribune



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    Bias: Extreme Right, Propaganda, Conspiracy

    Notes: The Conservative Tribune displays blatant right wing/conservative bias. Consistently fails fact checks, glorifies violence against African Americans and Muslims and promotes right wing conspiracies. (7/18/2016) Updated (7/19/2017)
    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/conservative-tribune/


    Thanks. I was about to post that but here's more...

    https://theintercept.com/2016/11/26/...ham-lifezette/

    One of Brown’s sites, Western Journalism, is the 81st largest site in the U.S. with 13 million monthly unique monthly visitors, according to rankings maintained by the site Alexa. Another, called Conservative Tribune, is the 50th largest site with over 19 million monthly unique visitors. Liftable Media is run on a day to day basis by Brown’s son, Patrick, who is the president of Liftable Media.


    Brown’s sites churn out bombastic headlines with little regard to the truth. One viral piece shared by Brown’s news outlets claimed that President Obama had redesigned the White House logo to change the American flag to a white flag, “a common symbol for surrender, which has many people wondering if Obama was trying to secretly signal to America’s enemies that he was surrendering.” The Facebook post touted the article with the line, “We all know Obama hates the United States, but what he just did to the White House logo is beyond the pale.”

    As the fact-checking website Snopes was quick to note, it was no signal of surrender and the bleached white version of the White House logo, complete with a white flag, was not even an Obama creation. The white logo dates back to as early as 2003, under the Bush administration, which used it for official documents.

    The Conservative Tribune and Western Journalism provide a steady stream of similarly deceptive, eye-catching headlines.

    “BREAKING: Muslims Ordered to Vote Hillary,” is the headline for one election post that grossly mischaracterized a mundane article about a Pakistani American activist going to door to door to help Clinton’s campaign. “Obama Urges Illegal Immigrants to Vote Without Fear of Getting Caught,” blared Western Journalism, claiming that President Obama had suggested in an interview on issues facing Latino millennial voters that noncitizens could vote and “will never get caught if they do.” The article left out the part of the Obama interview in which he said noncitizens “can’t legally vote, but they’re counting on you to make sure that you have the courage to make your voice heard.”

    The hits go on, with posts on a regular basis making claims ranging from the assertion that Clinton went on a “drug holiday” before the Las Vegas presidential debate to rumors that Obama’s birth certificate is under serious scrutiny.

    Thanks to views sourced largely to referrals from Facebook, Brown’s websites now outrank web traffic going to news outlets such as the Wall Street Journal, CBS News, and NPR, according to data compiled by Alexa. Both Western Journalism and Conservative Tribune are certified by Facebook as bonafide news providers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eve1 View Post
    There is no legal penalty for anything Comey did after he was fired. He did not share classified information with anyone outside the FBI.
    Yes, he did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronwyn View Post
    He was writing down what had occurred while he was acting in his capacity as Director of the FBI.
    Bullshit! Are you saying that Comey didn't have any off time? He wasn't allowed to write himself personal notes? Surely you know better than this crap.

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