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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatist View Post
    Not if you declassify it before sending.
    Dude.....ever hear of "multi-quote?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blueneck View Post
    catastrophic illness for people who aren't millionaires usually ends up with Medicaid picking up the tab eventually anyway.
    And since we all die eventually just about everyone ends up with one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatist View Post
    Bullshit. Classified material is declassified every fucking day by people like the SOS. If there was so much classified stuff in her email how the fuck did it get there? Were others actually sending classified material to her private server? If so, aren't those people guilty of doing that? If you have a security clearance and and you send a classified document to an unsecure server who is guilty, you or the person receiving it?

    You arrogant ignorance is on display.


    The president or the classifying agency is who can declassify, the SOS cannot declassify a DOD document, the SOS's office requests declassification from the DOD and vice versa. the ORIGINATING ORGANIZATION THAT CLASSIFIED THE DOCUMENT IS THE ONLY AUTHORITY WHO CAN DECLASSIFY.


    Now the SOS can say to the DOD "declassify this" and they in most cases have to oblige, but she cant take a classified fax, and instruct someone to remove said markings and send it pretending its a declassified document.


    As to you other question, if the receiving agency knowingly receives classified documents in this manner, and they dont report it, they are guilty of one of the other two laws I posted. Why don't you try reading the laws I quoted and debate objectively?

    Also if she's in possession of classified material you would need to show the sending org knowingly sent nonsecure, her email instructing the aide suggests it was sent secure.




    It's neither here nor there, the right spent about 2 years trying to pin something on Hillary and failed miserably. The final outcome was she didn't break the law and no charges were to be filed. The only ones left babbling about Hillary and her fucking server are rightwing dipshits with very low IQ's. She lost, it's over, nobody including sensible republicans give two shits about her now.




    Why won't any of you answer? you are so full of ignorant laden vitriol and partisan hackery it becomes a clown show watching you post.... Now its clear you are projecting when you call me an "ignorant right wing dipshit" and cowardly as you not only wouldn't say it to my face, you cant even say it directly hiding behind the mask of anonymity on the internet. you are timid, and act the way you do because you are scared of people so this is how you behave.


    I have facts and the law on my side, and you and your ilk refuse to answer one simple question.

    Why is that?


    Is it against the law to instruct an employee to remove the classified markings from a secure classified fax and send it nonsecure via email.

    yes or no?


    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/798

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatist View Post
    Not if you declassify it before sending.


    She is not the originating source. No one in the media or elsewhere is making the claim she declassified it. how many times do you need this explained to you?



    Here ya go:


    Richard Nixon: Executive Order 11652—Classification and Declassification of National Security Information and Material



    Show me here where the SECSTATE has the authority to declassify documents when they are not the originating org who classified the document.




    "(D) Classification Responsibilities. A holder of classified information or material shall observe and respect the classification assigned by the originator. If a holder believes that there is unnecessary classification, that the assigned classification is improper, or that the document is subject to declassification under this order, he shall so inform the originator who shall thereupon re-examine the classification."



    The Good Reverend.... Delivering true believers from the jaws of arrogant ignorance...... But will this guy man up and realize his err.

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    Obama is not president and isn't doing it anymore and Bush did it before him while Trump is the one doing it now. How come you didn't mention either of them? Didn't have something to do with the color of his skin did it?


    Trumps droning is a continuation of a horrible foreign policy and both bush obama as well as trump deserve to be raked over the coals for this.



    Your use of black people as a bat is disgusting and you should be ashamed of yourself. It's racist as fuck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatist View Post


    I accept your concession, I clearly lay out laws, and her violations with links, a well reasoned argument and this is your response.


    Do you ever wonder why no one really takes you seriously? I mean you are like this cartoon character not much different than the guy in your picture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatist View Post
    You would think if any of what you babble about were true that somebody would be charging her with something.


    No because the ruling class has a different set of laws and rules than you or I.


    The difference is you like being a second class dependent class citizen, I don't/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatist View Post
    Have you ever heard of declassifying a document? Only certain persons are capable of doing that. One of them would be the SOS. You really should feel kinda stupid repeating such bullshit. Comey wanted nothing more than to charge her for something, maybe the ex FBI director who spent his life investigating crimes should have been talking to a rightwing dipshit that hated Hillary and was oblivious to the law?


    Please link to "SECSTATE can declassify documents not originated by the state department".


    (D) Classification Responsibilities. A holder of classified information or material shall observe and respect the classification assigned by the originator. If a holder believes that there is unnecessary classification, that the assigned classification is improper, or that the document is subject to declassification under this order, he shall so inform the originator who shall thereupon re-examine the classification.

    Remember this?


    link is above in another post.



    and again you run your mouth at me calling me a "dipshit", meanwhile you are the one looking foolish avoiding my facts like a liberal to a job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatist View Post
    But it wasn't classified after she declassified it. Did that ever dawn on you?


    (D) Classification Responsibilities. A holder of classified information or material shall observe and respect the classification assigned by the originator. If a holder believes that there is unnecessary classification, that the assigned classification is improper, or that the document is subject to declassification under this order, he shall so inform the originator who shall thereupon re-examine the classification.



    arrogant ignorance. willful arrogant ignorance is an ugly ugly thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rev. Hellh0und View Post
    You flirting with me? You know I am way out of your league, right?



    No, you are wrong, I don't like laws applying differently to the ruling class than you or I.
    If you do say so yourself?

    And you sure seem to act like you deserve to be top man on the totem pole.

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