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    The Rise of the Crisis Actor Conspiracy Movement



    I posted the beginning of the video before. It's worth taking the time to watch the whole thing. I will go further and say if you ARE a conspiracy theorist, then you SHOULD watch the whole thing.

    Frankly, I am disgusted by these people. I am disgusted by Alex Jones. I believe that the survivors' families should file a class action lawsuit against/bankrupt him. He is like a Typhoid Mary of mental illness.

    The idea that mass shooting victims and witnesses are hired performers serving a dark purpose has over the last decade migrated from the farthest margins of conspiracy media

    The first thing to understand is that the “crisis actor” conspiracy theory has a slender tie to reality. Crisis actors do exist, though there is nothing underhanded about them: they are simply performers hired to play disaster victims in emergency drills or wounded combatants in military exercises. They provide a degree of realism for people practicing for real emergencies further down the line.

    But in recent years, the term has been appropriated by conspiracy theorists claiming that mass shootings are staged. Social media users, broadcasters and even political staffers now routinely allege that events like the Parkland shooting are orchestrated by shadowy actors in order to effect some political goal. Lately, they are likely to nominate the “deep state” as a culprit – by which they mean segments of the intelligence community and unelected officials who are held to be working against Donald Trump and working towards the confiscation or regulation of firearms.

    Google trends searches show that searches for the term in the last decade have spiked around high profile mass shootings. There was a small flurry earlier, at around the time of the Tacoma Mall shooting near Seattle in 2005. But by far the biggest spike came at the time of the Newtown shooting, where 26 elementary school students and adults were shot dead at Sandy Hook school.


    Having stated that I believe they are delusional - is there any treatment for them. Can they be brought back in touch with reality?
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    I posted the beginning of the video before. It's worth taking the time to watch the whole thing. I will go further and say if you ARE a conspiracy theorist, then you SHOULD watch the whole thing.

    Frankly, I am disgusted by these people. I am disgusted by Alex Jones. I believe that the survivors' families should file a class action lawsuit against/bankrupt him. He is like a Typhoid Mary of mental illness.

    The idea that mass shooting victims and witnesses are hired performers serving a dark purpose has over the last decade migrated from the farthest margins of conspiracy media



    Having stated that I believe they are delusional - is there any treatment for them. Can they be brought back in touch with reality?
    Some of them are delusional. Literally. Schizophrenia, schizoaffective disorder, schizotypal personality disorder and schizoid personality disorder, as well as a handful of other disorders/presentations, involve paranoid ideation and delusional thought processes and they perceive conspiracy all over the place. They can't detach from the what-if that it's all a conspiracy and people are attempting to hide the reality from them. Some such people have elaborate fixed delusional systems that manifest as conspiracy theories. They're real disorders. People have them. It happens.

    With that said, the way some people behave in front of a camera strikes ordinary people as just not quite right. When a 17-year old is in front of a camera hours after a horrifci attack and is more well-spoken and piercing than a well-rehearsed politician on the campaign trail three times his age, people stop and say, ya know, there's something odd about that. Maybe the kid is a social genius or something, but it doesn't seem normal. And then when clips surface of interviewers doing multiple takes and cuts, providing encouragement, and so forth, that doesn't look good either.

    Or the dad that spoke after Sandy Hook (Robbie something?) seemed contrived. Why was he like that? I don't know, who knows, his daughter was just killed, I have no idea, I can't begin to imagine how I would be in his shoes, but that doesn't change the fact that it came across as contrived. He shouldn't have jumped in front of a camera. Does any of that mean a vast conspiracy is at work? No, but all you have to do is watch. It's uncomfortable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    Some of them are delusional. Literally. Schizophrenia, schizoaffective disorder, schizotypal personality disorder and schizoid personality disorder, as well as a handful of other disorders/presentations, involve paranoid ideation and delusional thought processes. Some such people have elaborate fixed delusional systems that manifest as conspiracy theories. They're real disorders. People have them. It happens.

    With that said, the way some people behave in front of a camera strikes people as not quite right. When a 17-year old is in front of a camera hours after the attack and is more well-spoken and piercing than a well-rehearsed politician on the campaign trail three times his age, people stop and say, ya know, there's something odd about that. The kid is a social genius or something, but it doesn't seem normal. Or the dad that spoke after Sandy Hook (Robbie something?) seemed contrived. Why was he like that? I don't know, who knows, his daughter was just killed, I have no idea, I can't begin to imagine how I would be in his shoes, but that doesn't change the fact that it came across as contrived. He shouldn't have jumped in front of a camera. Does any of that mean a vast conspiracy is at work? No, but all you have to do is watch. It's uncomfortable.
    I think if you'd watched the video, you'd know why David is so self-possessed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    I think if you'd watched the video, you'd know why David is so self-possessed.
    I did watch it, and what I said still stands. But yeah there are plenty of mentally disturbed people out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    I did watch it, and what I said still stands. But yeah there are plenty of mentally disturbed people out there.
    Did you watch it previously? Because it's a twenty-five minute movie, and you posted back at me nine minutes after the OP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    Did you watch it previously? Because it's a twenty-five minute movie, and you posted back at me nine minutes after the OP.
    After I posted the first time.

    I have an uncle who is pathologically conspiracy-minded. He's never been able to hold down a steady job. He's poured years worth of his life into the Kennedy assassination. It's really debilitating. Not that he feels the least bit sorry for himself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    After I posted the first time.

    I have an uncle who is pathologically conspiracy-minded. He's never been able to hold down a steady job. He's poured years worth of his life into the Kennedy assassination. It's really debilitating. Not that he feels the least bit sorry for himself.
    He sounds like the guy who (for a brief moment) wondered how much of his life he wasted.

    I'm also wondering if any of these people have a significant other. I don't think I could handle it, personally.

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    I posted the beginning of the video before. It's worth taking the time to watch the whole thing. I will go further and say if you ARE a conspiracy theorist, then you SHOULD watch the whole thing.

    Frankly, I am disgusted by these people. I am disgusted by Alex Jones. I believe that the survivors' families should file a class action lawsuit against/bankrupt him. He is like a Typhoid Mary of mental illness.
    I have a beef with Jones, first though, I know you must be referring to Sandy hook. He did entertain those that were saying that no kids actually died. He's since backed away from that position. Not to defend Jones for no reason, I just want to be factual. He's been dealing with multiple lawsuits related to that, because there's a first amendment he's been winning + slap back on them.

    My beef with Jones has to do with Q. The strike on Syria, Jones started claiming that he knew better than "the plan" (part of the plan is that people who claim to know the full plan are part of fake news and to be discarded, part of Why, while I make implications that are my best guess on the plan as it's been presented)


    The idea that mass shooting victims and witnesses are hired performers serving a dark purpose has over the last decade migrated from the farthest margins of conspiracy media



    Having stated that I believe they are delusional - is there any treatment for them. Can they be brought back in touch with reality?
    This relates to trump cutting funding to the "white helmets", thing Is, many are not aware, the children that were victimized by the chemical attack in Syria have since been interviewed about how the whole scene was faked.

    I don't mean to hijack your thread, but I'm afraid that some of your premises are flawed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmanmcfly View Post
    I have a beef with Jones, first though, I know you must be referring to Sandy hook. He did entertain those that were saying that no kids actually died. He's since backed away from that position. Not to defend Jones for no reason, I just want to be factual. He's been dealing with multiple lawsuits related to that, because there's a first amendment he's been winning + slap back on them.

    My beef with Jones has to do with Q. The strike on Syria, Jones started claiming that he knew better than "the plan" (part of the plan is that people who claim to know the full plan are part of fake news and to be discarded, part of Why, while I make implications that are my best guess on the plan as it's been presented)




    This relates to trump cutting funding to the "white helmets", thing Is, many are not aware, the children that were victimized by the chemical attack in Syria have since been interviewed about how the whole scene was faked.

    I don't mean to hijack your thread, but I'm afraid that some of your premises are flawed.
    That is what consiracists do...hijack the issue.

    Russia v UK: 'WE have proof' Fury as Putin says Britain FAKED Syria chemical attack

    RUSSIAN officials claimed to have "proof" that the alleged chemical weapons attack in Syria was faked by local aid workers on British orders.

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...ck-douma-putin

    Is david Hogg a crisis actor? Have you posted anything ...on any forum...pointing to David Hogg as a crisis actor?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
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    I posted the beginning of the video before. It's worth taking the time to watch the whole thing. I will go further and say if you ARE a conspiracy theorist, then you SHOULD watch the whole thing.

    Frankly, I am disgusted by these people. I am disgusted by Alex Jones. I believe that the survivors' families should file a class action lawsuit against/bankrupt him. He is like a Typhoid Mary of mental illness.

    The idea that mass shooting victims and witnesses are hired performers serving a dark purpose has over the last decade migrated from the farthest margins of conspiracy media



    Having stated that I believe they are delusional - is there any treatment for them. Can they be brought back in touch with reality?
    You believe? I think they are advanced from delusional, they are crack pot crazy now. Delusions are in their past!

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