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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkady View Post
    They're trolls. I think there are very few people GENUINELY stupid enough to believe the "Clinton Body Count" nonsense. They just pretend to be that stupid to get a rise out of people.
    No, not trolls, people that observed the trend.

    The extent of the leeway where you are correct is that some of the really high numbers start getting to really lose connections.

    Really, people with connections to the clintons have a far higher incidence of dying young, in car accidents, suicides (like the one I said earlier, 2 bullets to the back of the head and tied up).

    Here's a challenge to present if you ever encounter someone who may actually be stupid enough to have bought into that talking point about the Clintons killing off their political enemies. Ask them to make a list of who they think the top enemies of the Clintons have been over the years, in terms of the extent to which they harmed Bill or Hillary's political interests or otherwise caused them problems. Then ask them how those people are doing.
    There are rules. They aren't the laws that you and I live by, but more like mafia rules. You can't just kill someone who is also "made", if you kill someone under someone else's protection you declare war with that faction, if you snitch you die... That type of stuff.

    Yes, the Clintons, bushes, both... And deeply connected.

    Here's something like what the top of a Clinton Enemies List would look like, if you took an honest look at the problems people had caused them over the years:
    I don't have all, but snip the list...

    Kenneth Starr - job was to prevent treason for selling missile secrets

    , Paula Jones - she played only by legal rules
    , Barack Obama (beat Hillary) - the deal was she steps down, takes sos position till he gets her elected the next time
    Donald Trump (ditto) - there have been at least 2 assassination attempts on trump already
    Bernie Sanders - he played ball
    , Newt Gingrich - dunno
    Bob Dole - dunno
    , Rupert Murdoch - made
    Roger Ailes - made
    Rush Limbaugh - made / protected
    Bill O'Reilly - made / protected
    , Sean Hannity - made / protected
    , Maureen Dowd - dunno
    , Glenn Beck - protected
    Scalia - 187
    Rehnquist - dunno
    , Kennedy - dunno
    , O'Connor - dunno
    Roberts,Thomas, Richard Mellon Scaife, Larry Klayman - public figures / judges / cops / etc are tough to kill,
    Juanita Broaddrick, Kathleen Willey, Gennifer Flowers, Monica Lewinsky - they were already victims who made the accusations, that is gift wrapped motive

    David Brock - dunno
    , Susan Webber Wright - dunno
    , Henry Hyde, Trent Lott, Asa Hutchinson, - dunno

    Bob Barr - being opposed does not make a target
    , Henry Hyde - dunno
    , Rudy Giuliani - made
    Frank D. White - dunno
    Ann Coulter - celebrity
    Laura Ingraham - celebrity
    , Linda Tripp, Lucianne Goldberg- dunno
    Dinesh D'Souza - they got him as good as they could

    The point, of course, is that nearly everyone on that list is still alive and well, and the handful who have died lived to a ripe old age before dying well after when they were causing problems for the Clintons. If the Clintons had the habit of having people who cause problems for them killed, that list would have plenty of people who died mysteriously and young. Instead, to pitch the "Clinton Body Count" BS, the right-wing nuts have to keep their eyes out for anyone who ever met any of the Clintons in any capacity who died prematurely, and then make up wacky stories about how somehow that death served the Clintons. Not only would someone have to be deeply stupid to believe such nonsense, but also clinically paranoid.
    There are rules that even criminals have to abide by.

    People who worked for Clinton, that is otherwise not famous, that learns something they ought not... Well, when they break the connection, they better get famous and disappear, or the likelihood of a car accident or plane crash goes up dramatically.

    The only people with a common connection (outside of war) were JFK assassination witnesses to die premature. We now learned because of the declassification that there was a bullet from behind to the head, and a shot from the front into the throat.

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    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...l-Clinton.html

    Even though I know that like every other link, will just be rejected with no logic attached.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    Yeah, it took me a bit to desipher that (I didn't know that was Soros' birth name)
    Me neither. Google Translate, followed by Googling the translated name. All praise Google.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmanmcfly View Post
    Spy found dead in a bag, Gareth Williams, 'had infuriated his MI6 bosses' | Daily Mail Online

    Even though I know that like every other link, will just be rejected with no logic attached.
    The Clinton "link" was only one of many insane speculations in the Daily Fail piece. The "secret data" was supposedly the guest list for a dinner where Clinton was a speaker. Hardly a reason for murder. The entire thing is poor quality conspiracy theory. Logically speaking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bmanmcfly View Post
    Spy found dead in a bag, Gareth Williams, 'had infuriated his MI6 bosses' | Daily Mail Online

    Even though I know that like every other link, will just be rejected with no logic attached.
    Oh, Gareth Williams was definitely murdered, all right. But he was murdered by the Russians, probably at the behest of Vladimir Putin:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Gareth_Williams
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dangermouse View Post
    The Clinton "link" was only one of many insane speculations in the Daily Fail piece. The "secret data" was supposedly the guest list for a dinner where Clinton was a speaker. Hardly a reason for murder. The entire thing is poor quality conspiracy theory. Logically speaking.
    More likely what was on the menu... They would have no qualms about killing over that secret.

    ESPECIALLY back then...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    Disagree - There is one in particular who used to be staff here that absolutely and adamantly believed the insanity.

    How many people thought Trayvon Martin was buying ingredients to get high, and thus deserved killing?

    How many people believe (and they will explain it to you completely, in great detail) that Sandy Hook didn't happen?

    Hell, just how many people think Alex Jones speaks the truth?
    I guess I struggle with this because of "selection bias." My own circle of friends and family mostly consists of sane and intelligent people. I live in the most educated state in the union and my social circle disproportionately consists of people who have advanced degrees from elite universities. I have a handful of wacky right-wing relatives who live in Colorado, but even they haven't fallen so far down the Alex Jones rabbit hole that they believe the Clinton Death List material, even if they vomit up all sorts of examples of lesser bits of right-wing lunacy. So, from my particular vantage point, I just don't know anyone in the real world who believes that crap, and that makes it hard to believe any significant number of people do. But I guess I have to remind myself that being blessed with an unusually sane and intelligent social circle doesn't mean the whole world is that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkady View Post
    I guess I struggle with this because of "selection bias." My own circle of friends and family mostly consists of sane and intelligent people. I live in the most educated state in the union and my social circle disproportionately consists of people who have advanced degrees from elite universities. I have a handful of wacky right-wing relatives who live in Colorado, but even they haven't fallen so far down the Alex Jones rabbit hole that they believe the Clinton Death List material, even if they vomit up all sorts of examples of lesser bits of right-wing lunacy. So, from my particular vantage point, I just don't know anyone in the real world who believes that crap, and that makes it hard to believe any significant number of people do. But I guess I have to remind myself that being blessed with an unusually sane and intelligent social circle doesn't mean the whole world is that way.
    You need to visit northern New England then! Read where NH and Maine are some of Alex Jones most popular audiences. I was surprised but I do know quite a few who do like Infowars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    Where the actual fuck is this coming from?!




    W Magazine



    How deep does a conspiracy theorist have to go before curiosity crosses over into madness?



    "An apparent suicide, leaving behind a note" which did not point at the Clintons.

    These people are either so gullible as to need a nanny, or utterly mad.
    Even PURSES and ACCESSORIES are fodder for conspiracy theories now? I'll bet Bill had an affair with her. Hell, maybe Hillary had an affair with her. Maybe Ms. Spade used the DC pizza parlor to procure children as slave labor to make her purses from the same children Hillary used for a sex ring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bmanmcfly View Post
    The thing is; it's a very dangerous spot to be in having pissed off a Clinton.
    Did you see my list of the people who had pissed off the Clintons the most? Did you notice how nearly all of them are alive and well, often at a very ripe old age.

    Just to take a few examples:

    Probably nobody in the world did more to hurt the Clintons than Ken Starr. He abused his office for years to persecute their friends, sidetrack Bill's presidency, and leak every embarrassing personal detail to the press. Today, decades later, he's a healthy septuagenarian.

    Or how about Richard Mellon Scaife? He almost single-handedly bankrolled the anti-Clinton propaganda effort throughout the 1990s -- spending down his vast inherited fortune to fund right-wing propaganda outfits to go after Clinton. The funding was literally in the hundreds of millions of dollars, laundered through a laundry list of trusts like the Sarah Scaife Foundation, the Carthage Foundation, the Allegheny Foundation, and the Scaife Family Foundation. He lived well into his 80s, and only died years after he'd basically spent enough of his fortune away to be irrelevant, with his position of conservative moneyman having been superseded by the Koch Brothers.

    Or how about those brothers? They're a pair of heirs to a vast family fortune who spent years bankrolling countless anti-Hillary operations. Charles is 82 and well, and his brother's 78. No sign of those Clinton hit squads yet.

    Newt Gingrich -- the man who made it his personal mission to stonewall the Clinton agenda, and then took the central role in the impeachment effort? 74 and healthy. Paula Jones, who jumps at every open mic to tell stories about the time Bill supposedly flashed her his junk? She's been around for a quarter century since she popped up on the Clinton radar with her harassment lawsuit. Juanita Broaddrick is 75. Kathleen Willey is 72. Larry Klayman, who founded Judicialwatch to carry out a never-ending series of nuisance suits against the Clintons, is 67. Rush Limbaugh, who did more to poison the media discourse against Clinton than anyone, is 67, too. Rupert Murdoch, who took an entire TV network and made it into the 24/7 anti-Clinton channel is 87.

    If anything, the truth is the exact opposite of what you suggested: pissing off the Clintons seems like the equivalent of a health spa -- it practically guarantees a long and healthy life.
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