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    The trend, as you can see, is for people who piss off the Clintons to live long, healthy lives. The way that unintelligent people work to convince themselves otherwise is to come at the question in reverse. Rather than looking at those who have pissed off the Clintons and seeing how they're doing, they instead look for people who have died early and then speculate wildly about how they may have pissed off the Clintons.
    That's like saying "why doesn't the mafia just kill every cop?"

    There are rules...

    Show me statistical support for that. What is the average life expectancy of someone who knows the Clintons versus the average life expectancy of a person in general? Perhaps we could start with a sub-set of people, like just heads of cabinets in the Clinton administration -- that would be a reasonably small group to work with and we could see how long each lived relative to what actuarial tables say about how long they would be expected to live. Up for joining me in crunching those numbers to test your theory?
    There are rules...

    Do you think it's as easy as "hey, can you do me a solid and kill a senator for me this weekend?" Cause it's absurd to think that an organized crime family is going to just kill everyone that disagrees with them.

    No clue what you're talking about. What makes you think he was involved in the question of selling missile secrets?

    Starr's job was to determine if the Clintons had done anything improper related to an old Arkansas land deal. After the first special investigator had determined they hadn't done anything improper, the Republicans wanted a second opinion, from a hard-line right-winger, and so Starr was tasked with repeating the investigation. After he had determined the first investigator was correct, he was essentially given a second job: to pull a dragnet through every aspect of the Clintons' lives to try to find something --anything-- his fellow Republicans could use as a pretext for an impeachment. He failed to come up with anything meaningful despite millions of dollars of effort over the course of many years, so ultimately the Republicans gave up and just decided to impeach Clinton for lying about a blowjob.
    Bill Clinton is why China got MIRV technology. You can look into it if you want, it is documented, but it's not easily found.

    That's the cover story, if a real investigation was had, the land deal had connections, it would have ended with about 20 prosecutions, and at least the execution of bill.

    And? Does playing by legal rules insulate a person from the mythical Clinton death list?
    Motive.

    He didn't get her elected. Should we expect him to kick the bucket any minute now?
    He tried, and has been doing everything in his power to work against trump. However, he's also a made man.

    There are countless assassination attempts on every president. Hell, on Clinton's watch someone even flew a plane into the White House. But imagine if the paranoid right wing were right about a vast deep-state conspiracy to get Trump, with murderous Clintons wrapped up in that. Do you imagine Trump would still be alive?
    Trump knew going in that he either wins or dies trying.

    Sanders did the right thing and campaigned for Hillary Clinton after he'd lost the nomination, but not until after months of very negative and personal campaigning against her. If the Clintons were what the loony right-wingers think them to be, why wouldn't they just have had him conveniently die of a heart attack, on campaign, around the time it became clear he'd be going negative? The guy was in his mid-70s... it's not like it would seem terribly suspicious if, under the strains of a national campaign, an old man's heart kicked out.
    Because you don't kill your teammates.


    Well, I do know. They were the two leading political opponents of Clinton in the 90s. They fought him every step of the way, from their perch atop the House and Senate, respectively. Then Dole went on to run against Clinton in '96, and Gingrich went on to lead the impeachment effort against him (all the while lying about his own affairs). Both are alive and well today -- Bob Dole at the ripe old age of 94.
    Again, there are rules. You could walk into the biker bar closest to you live, and if you play by the rules, you may not even realize the killers sitting next to you waiting for a slip up.

    I'm having trouble keeping up with the paranoia here. What does "made" mean? From what I can see the rule seems to be that anyone who dies young was killed by the Clintons, while all their enemies who live to a ripe old age don't count because the fact they lived to a ripe old age can be seen as proof they're "made" or "protected." Do you spot the circular reasoning?
    As Gingrich said about trump, "he didn't take part in the rituals"

    If you don't understand; godfather, goodfellas (based on a true story).



    You haven't thought this through even a little, have you? The whole M.O. of the paranoids, in trying to attribute an untimely death to the Clintons, is to point to a supposed motive the Clintons would have to have them dead. Since there's never any actual evidence of Clinton involvement in the death, this supposed motive is the only way to try to tie the death to them in the public's mind. Yet in cases where people who have harmed the Clintons live to a ripe old age, we're told the Clintons can't have them killed because there would be an identifiable motive tying it to the Clintons. Do you spot the silliness of this rhetoric? The existence of a motive cannot sanely simultaneously be used as the only tie between a death and the Clintons, and as a way of explaining away why other inconvenient people weren't killed. It works one way or the other, not both.
    You're trying to tell me my mo, when you just showed that you don't even comprehend what I'm telling you?

    I'm trying to explain to you a massive interconnected organization that encompasses both parties and most of the world, you're thinking this is high school drama club.



    Would you even recognize a threat right in front of you?


    This wasn't mere opposition. Bob Barr was one of the colossal hypocrites who actually managed the impeachment procedure against Clinton (Barr a man who'd cheated on his wife, and was actually on his third wife at the time). If even being one of the top organizers of an impeachment can't get a violent reaction from the Clintons, what can?



    Like Kate Spade and how many others on the supposed Clinton death list?
    I dunno, I've heard people say as many as in the 50's, the high numbers get into the really nebulous connections. I don't know the actual numbers.



    We're told they have the power to have dozens and dozens of people killed, up to and including people like Supreme Court justices. Yet, somehow, the best they could do with D'Souza is outing him for his lawbreaking?
    There are rules.


    I honestly can't follow what you're saying here -- I wonder if even you can. Which is it -- to stay alive do they have to get famous or disappear. You said both. Strange.
    Yes, get famous so your death will be noticed, and disappear as it fades.

    However I feel this is mostly wasted efforts, you don't understand the rules, but have preconceptions on the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmanmcfly View Post
    That's like saying "why doesn't the mafia just kill every cop?"

    There are rules...



    There are rules...

    Do you think it's as easy as "hey, can you do me a solid and kill a senator for me this weekend?" Cause it's absurd to think that an organized crime family is going to just kill everyone that disagrees with them.



    Bill Clinton is why China got MIRV technology. You can look into it if you want, it is documented, but it's not easily found.

    That's the cover story, if a real investigation was had, the land deal had connections, it would have ended with about 20 prosecutions, and at least the execution of bill.



    Motive.



    He tried, and has been doing everything in his power to work against trump. However, he's also a made man.



    Trump knew going in that he either wins or dies trying.



    Because you don't kill your teammates.




    Again, there are rules. You could walk into the biker bar closest to you live, and if you play by the rules, you may not even realize the killers sitting next to you waiting for a slip up.



    As Gingrich said about trump, "he didn't take part in the rituals"

    If you don't understand; godfather, goodfellas (based on a true story).





    You're trying to tell me my mo, when you just showed that you don't even comprehend what I'm telling you?

    I'm trying to explain to you a massive interconnected organization that encompasses both parties and most of the world, you're thinking this is high school drama club.



    Would you even recognize a threat right in front of you?




    I dunno, I've heard people say as many as in the 50's, the high numbers get into the really nebulous connections. I don't know the actual numbers.





    There are rules.




    Yes, get famous so your death will be noticed, and disappear as it fades.

    However I feel this is mostly wasted efforts, you don't understand the rules, but have preconceptions on the game.
    Yes, there are rules: if someone who knew the Clintons died early, the Clintons must have killled them, and the absence of any evidence is just proof of how good they are at covering their tracks, whereas if someone the Clintons would actually want to see gone lives a long healthy life, it just means there’s some secret organized crime reason they couldn’t have them killed. You sound like a crazy person. I’m just trying to figure out if you’re trolling or you really believe this stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkady View Post
    Yes, there are rules: if someone who knew the Clintons died early, the Clintons must have killled them, and the absence of any evidence is just proof of how good they are at covering their tracks, whereas if someone the Clintons would actually want to see gone lives a long healthy life, it just means thereís some secret organized crime reason they couldnít have them killed. You sound like a crazy person. Iím just trying to figure out if youíre trolling or you really believe this stuff.
    You managed to grasp 3 words. Three words.

    How can I tell? It's the only part consistent with what I said.

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