Results 1 to 8 of 8
Thanks Tree1Thanks
  • 1 Post By excalibur

Thread: Will Any Iran Nuclear Deal Be Written Down?

  1. #1
    Under Protest excalibur's Avatar
    Joined
    Dec 2014
    Posts
    11,023
    Thanks
    3495

    From
    The Milky Way

    Will Any Iran Nuclear Deal Be Written Down?

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/25/wo...-one.html?_r=0


    If an agreement to limit Iran’s nuclear capability is reached by deadline in the next seven days, one thing may be missing: an actual written accord, signed by the Iranians.

    Over the past few weeks, Iran has increasingly resisted any kind of formal “framework” agreement at this stage in the negotiations, preferring a more general statement of “understanding” followed by a final accord in June, according to Western diplomats involved in the talks.

    Should that position hold — one of the many unknowns of the coming days — the United States and its five negotiating partners may find themselves in the uncomfortable position of describing the accord as they understand it while the Iranians go home to offer their own version.
    Thanks from Rorschach

  2. #2
    Banned Camp
    Joined
    Aug 2012
    Posts
    53,875
    Thanks
    19117

    From
    america
    Seems to me, that the negotiations are down to how much money, exactly, the US Taxpayers, will contribute to Iran's Nuclear program......

    But, in all seriousness: There will be NO accord.

    Iran does not want one.

    HOWEVER...IF they can "make promises" for the lifting of sanctions, sure, they will do that. Win-win for them.....

  3. #3
    Established Member Redwood's Avatar
    Joined
    Oct 2013
    Posts
    6,887
    Thanks
    4421

    From
    Ohio
    UH? Of COURSE any DEAL on that scale is "'Written down" WTF? You don't haggle the details a few months and then all you got is claims of what it was about.

    I'm rather amazed anyone SUGGESTS otherwise. This ain't like buying a $500 used car.

  4. #4
    Established Member Redwood's Avatar
    Joined
    Oct 2013
    Posts
    6,887
    Thanks
    4421

    From
    Ohio
    Quote Originally Posted by Rorschach View Post
    Seems to me, that the negotiations are down to how much money, exactly, the US Taxpayers, will contribute to Iran's Nuclear program......

    But, in all seriousness: There will be NO accord.

    Iran does not want one.

    HOWEVER...IF they can "make promises" for the lifting of sanctions, sure, they will do that. Win-win for them.....
    Paranoid nonsense? Let's be adults...ok? We want to MONITOR what their program actually does. They want sanctions reduced. The DETAILS are what gets tricky. We really do not trust them.. and visa versa. Some seem fine with yet another costly War..that ends up a stalemate.

  5. #5
    Under Protest excalibur's Avatar
    Joined
    Dec 2014
    Posts
    11,023
    Thanks
    3495

    From
    The Milky Way
    Quote Originally Posted by Redwood View Post
    Paranoid nonsense? Let's be adults...ok? We want to MONITOR what their program actually does. They want sanctions reduced. The DETAILS are what gets tricky. We really do not trust them.. and visa versa. Some seem fine with yet another costly War..that ends up a stalemate.

    Or a "deal" that is unwritten.

    IOW, whatever each side says is what the "deal" is.

    I'm off to Bedlam .........

  6. #6
    Veteran Member GordonGecko's Avatar
    Joined
    Jun 2013
    Posts
    29,973
    Thanks
    22632

    From
    VA
    It's interesting all the "Constitutional conservatives" who want a deal with the Iranians treated as a "treaty" and want the Senate to vote on it, due to their supposed "love of the Constitution".....

    but who would support us bombing Iran....without a formal declaration of war?!?!?!?

  7. #7
    Banned Camp
    Joined
    Aug 2012
    Posts
    53,875
    Thanks
    19117

    From
    america
    Paranoid nonsense?
    --Could be. I hope so!

    Let's be adults...ok?
    --Ok....

    We want to MONITOR what their program actually does.
    --Yes. That is what we want. As it was with North Korea (Still developing more advanced nukes. Occasionally, they "make a deal" with the US, in which we FEED their people, only for them to reneg on the deal.) The Iranians do not seem keen to the idea of allowing the open and suprise inspections required to monitor such activity. ALTHOUGH, I would wager they are open to "allowing" inspectors to check things out, with prior approval, and, according to IRAN's timeline....

    They want sanctions reduced.
    --Yes. That is the only tool we really have....

    The DETAILS are what gets tricky.
    --Yes, very tricky.

    We really do not trust them.. and visa versa.
    --Well, WE are asked to "trust" them, to NOT continue work on their nuclear program. That can be hidden, without rigorous and complete inspections INCLUDING suprise inspections.

    --Hard to "hide" sanctions, so their "trust" of us, either lifting or keeping sanctions, needs to go only so far as...IF the Sanctions are in place, or, if they are not.

    Some seem fine with yet another costly War..that ends up a stalemate.
    --Liberals KEEP Suggesting that we may "go to war with Iran," over this. WHY? This is not an "either/or" argument. We COULD keep sanctions in place, while Iran keeps doing what they are doing. That does NOT mean "War....."

  8. #8
    Banned Camp
    Joined
    Aug 2012
    Posts
    53,875
    Thanks
    19117

    From
    america
    Quote Originally Posted by GordonGecko View Post
    It's interesting all the "Constitutional conservatives" who want a deal with the Iranians treated as a "treaty" and want the Senate to vote on it, due to their supposed "love of the Constitution".....

    but who would support us bombing Iran....without a formal declaration of war?!?!?!?
    Good question.

    Thus far, it seems that everyone suggesting that we "get a deal or go to war," have been from the LEFT, not the RIGHT......

Similar Threads

  1. Israel Vows to "Thwart Iran Nuclear Deal"
    By Friday13 in forum Current Events
    Replies: 61
    Last Post: 11th February 2015, 05:57 PM
  2. Replies: 0
    Last Post: 28th March 2010, 04:56 AM
  3. Chavez and Medvedev sign a nuclear deal
    By res in forum World Politics
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 27th November 2008, 09:52 PM
  4. Iran ex-president urges better climate for nuclear deal
    By Defensor in forum Political Discussion
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 8th May 2008, 05:40 PM
  5. Indo-Us nuclear deal!!!
    By Kalp in forum World Politics
    Replies: 12
    Last Post: 3rd October 2006, 04:47 AM

Tags for this Thread


Facebook Twitter RSS Feed