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    Russia makes friends with [Syrian] Kurds

    The radical Communist Kurdish group PKK is considered terrorists by Turkish government, against whom they have been waging an insurgency:
    PKK attack kills soldiers in south-eastern Turkey - BBC News
    Two Turkish soldiers killed in PKK bomb attack: army
    Four Turkish soldiers killed, seven wounded in PKK attacks, curfew imposed
    Two Turkish soldiers killed in PKK bomb attack | Middle East Eye
    Seven killed as Turkish army, PKK clash near Syrian border | Al Bawaba
    (last is from today, actually)

    But Russia does not consider them terrorists, which is understandable, considering USSR once pretty much built the PKK to what it became My own grandfather was a part of that at one point lol

    So, while it may surprise the Turks, it does not at all surprise me that PYD and other Syrian Kurdish groups loyal to the PKK seem now to have openly allied with the Russians, attacking Erdogan's Turkmen "brothers" in the border areas, and fighting other Turkish-backed groups in the Aleppo area, with Russian air support:

    Russia supports the Syrian affiliate of the PKK terrorist organization, PYD, which is trying to take control of the Azez region in Syria near the Turkish border, local sources in Azez tell Anadolu Agency.

    While the PYD attacks opposition forces in Azez, Russian aircraft have staged three airstrikes against the road linking the district with Bab al Salameh border gate, the sources say.

    The sources claim Russian aircraft have also attacked the frontline where PYD is fighting opposition forces in the north of Aleppo. On Thursday, Russia attacked the Deyr Cemal town in the north of Aleppo, aiming to stop the advancement of opposition forces.

    On Wednesday, Russia attacked long vehicles in the same region, killing seven people and injuring 10 others; 20 vehicles were also burnt.

    Separately, Russian aircraft also attacked opposition forces on the ground in Malikiye and Ziyara towns, north of Aleppo, in support of the PYD, YPG and Syrian Democratic Forces during the last two days.

    Last week, Russian jets also attacked opposition forces in Deir Cemal and Meryemeyn in attempts to open corridors for YPG and Syrian Democratic Forces.

    Russia-PYD rapprochement gains momentum

    PYD expanded its territories towards the west after taking control of Tel Abyad from Daesh in June, a region mainly inhabited by Arabs and Turkmen.

    However, for merging Kobani with Afrin region, PYD must first take control of Daesh-controlled Jerablus and opposition forces-controlled Azez regions. In order to achieve that goal, PYD has reportedly began its rapprochement with Russia.

    Two days before Russia began its air campaign in Syria on Sept. 30, Russian President Vladimir Putin said that only the Bashar al-Assad regime and Kurds were truly fighting Daesh, giving a signal of rapprochement with Kurds.

    Only 11 days after Russia began its air campaign in Syria, Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Mikhail Bogdanov met with PYD co-chairman Salih Muslim in Paris.

    On Oct. 21, Bogdanov met also the other PYD co-chairwoman, Asya Abdullah, in Moscow. The meetings were followed by the initiative to open a PYD office in Moscow.

    On Oct. 23, Putin said that the Assad regime and PYD need to unite forces, and called on the organization to come over to the regime side in the Syria conflict.
    Russian support for PKK's Syrian arm PYD

    Good for Russia. When fighting an air war, the more allies you have on the ground, the better

    In other news, MSF hospital in Homs destroyed by barrel bombing: MSF hospital in Syria hit by 'double-tap' barrel bombing | World news | The Guardian

    That third facility they have lost lately, first Afghanistan, than Yemen, now Syria.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    The radical Communist Kurdish group PKK is considered terrorists by Turkish government, against whom they have been waging an insurgency:
    PKK attack kills soldiers in south-eastern Turkey - BBC News
    Two Turkish soldiers killed in PKK bomb attack: army
    Four Turkish soldiers killed, seven wounded in PKK attacks, curfew imposed
    Two Turkish soldiers killed in PKK bomb attack | Middle East Eye
    Seven killed as Turkish army, PKK clash near Syrian border | Al Bawaba
    (last is from today, actually)

    But Russia does not consider them terrorists, which is understandable, considering USSR once pretty much built the PKK to what it became My own grandfather was a part of that at one point lol

    So, while it may surprise the Turks, it does not at all surprise me that PYD and other Syrian Kurdish groups loyal to the PKK seem now to have openly allied with the Russians, attacking Erdogan's Turkmen "brothers" in the border areas, and fighting other Turkish-backed groups in the Aleppo area, with Russian air support:



    Russian support for PKK's Syrian arm PYD

    Good for Russia. When fighting an air war, the more allies you have on the ground, the better

    In other news, MSF hospital in Homs destroyed by barrel bombing: MSF hospital in Syria hit by 'double-tap' barrel bombing | World news | The Guardian

    That third facility they have lost lately, first Afghanistan, than Yemen, now Syria.
    Isn't there a lot of mistrust and animosity between Turkey and the Kurds?

    If so... that's why Putin is befriending them. He has his sights set on Turkey and is going to do everything he can to soften them up. I doubt it has anything to do with bolstering his air campaigns.

    It's the classic the enemy of my enemy is my friend strategy.
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    While I understand that there are some extremist elements of the Kurdish peoples, THEY are the one group who needs outside support.

    I had always hoped that the United States would be the nation to stand beside them, but....as with all the other voids Obama is creating in American Leadership, it is nice to see that SOMEONE is filling them......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rorschach View Post
    While I understand that there are some extremist elements of the Kurdish peoples, THEY are the one group who needs outside support.

    I had always hoped that the United States would be the nation to stand beside them, but....as with all the other voids Obama is creating in American Leadership, it is nice to see that SOMEONE is filling them......
    Putin is just going to use the Kurds as an instrument against Turkey. He has no interest in standing with the Kurds trust me. Just as he has no real interest in standing with Assad.

    Putin is just using these players as pawns to expand his influence into the region.

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    FWIW, those Kurds are a heck of a lot more effective in battle than majority of Assad’s army, aside from the elite SAA special forces like the Cheetah and Tiger units So, yeah, they're valuable. And I think Putin can even make Assad concede their indigenous territory to them, in turn for attacking the various "moderate opposition" groups and ISIS from their side Win-win hehe

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    Well this should be interesting.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rorschach View Post
    While I understand that there are some extremist elements of the Kurdish peoples, THEY are the one group who needs outside support.

    I had always hoped that the United States would be the nation to stand beside them, but....as with all the other voids Obama is creating in American Leadership, it is nice to see that SOMEONE is filling them......
    The U.S. has a long and shameful history of promising to support the kurds, getting them to commit to action - and then the U.S. fails to keep it's promises.

    This goes all the way back to the mid - late 80's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snikitz View Post
    The U.S. has a long and shameful history of promising to support the kurds, getting them to commit to action - and then the U.S. fails to keep it's promises.

    This goes all the way back to the mid - late 80's.
    Its a problem when they carry out terrorist attacks on our allies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy View Post
    Putin is just going to use the Kurds as an instrument against Turkey. He has no interest in standing with the Kurds trust me. Just as he has no real interest in standing with Assad.

    Putin is just using these players as pawns to expand his influence into the region.
    Well, Putin "Using" them, seems to be a better deal, than Obama "befriending" them....

    Sad, but, true.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by labrea View Post
    Its a problem when they carry out terrorist attacks on our allies.
    Defending your land and people from Turk invaders and occupiers isn't "terrorism", it's heroism

    Also, I cannot see the image in your previous post.
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