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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    Lee's "own country" was virginia.
    As Trump would say......loooooooser. His country was the United States, his home state was Virginia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollywood View Post
    As Trump would say......loooooooser. His country was the United States, his home state was Virginia.
    Neo-Confederates are still arguing for "States Rights" and the legality of Secession.
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    You better read that letter over again.
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    Oh yeah, he was a real peach of a guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boontito View Post
    You know... both men led large marches in various parts of the country.
    While were at it, what is Old Hickory? Chopped liver?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    Lee's "own country" was virginia.
    Did he commit treason to Virginia when he swore to defend the constitution of another country, the United States of America?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davocrat View Post
    While were at it, what is Old Hickory? Chopped liver?
    It's named in honor of the type of wood used to hold up the white flag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    I'd have to agree with mr blount on this one.

    Few figures in American history are more divisive, contradictory or elusive than Robert E. Lee, the reluctant, tragic leader of the Confederate Army, who died in his beloved Virginia at age 63 in 1870, five years after the end of the Civil War. In a new biography, Robert E. Lee, Roy Blount, Jr., treats Lee as a man of competing impulses, a “paragon of manliness” and “one of the greatest military commanders in history,” who was nonetheless “not good at telling men what to do.”

    Blount, a noted humorist, journalist, playwright and raconteur, is the author or coauthor of 15 previous books and the editor of Roy Blount’s Book of Southern Humor. Aresident of New York City and western Massachusetts, he traces his interest in Lee to his boyhood in Georgia. Though Blount was never a Civil War buff, he says “every Southerner has to make his peace with that War. I plunged back into it for this book, and am relieved to have emerged alive.”

    “Also,” he says, “Lee reminds me in some ways of my father.”

    At the heart of Lee’s story is one of the monumental choices in American history: revered for his honor, Lee resigned his U.S. Army commission to defend Virginia and fight for the Confederacy, on the side of slavery. “The decision was honorable by his standards of honor—which, whatever we may think of them, were neither self-serving nor complicated,” Blount says. Lee “thought it was a bad idea for Virginia to secede, and God knows he was right, but secession had been more or less democratically decided upon.” Lee’s family held slaves, and he himself was at best ambiguous on the subject, leading some of his defenders over the years to discount slavery’s significance in assessments of his character. Blount argues that the issue does matter: “To me it’s slavery, much more than secession as such, that casts a shadow over Lee’s honorableness.”.....




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    I agree. But I think it's also true to say that Lee's actions defended the institution of slavery. So whether he wanted to or not, Lee fought FOR slavery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davocrat View Post
    I agree. But I think it's also true to say that Lee's actions defended the institution of slavery. So whether he wanted to or not, Lee fought FOR slavery.
    Did General Custer "Fight for Genocide?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rorschach View Post
    More insulting and flame baiting.

    I do such, or, respond in kind....I get banned for a few days.

    (In fact, I probably will for daring to mention such facts.....)
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