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    Julian Assange is in arbitrary detention

    good enough to shame Britain and Sweden and the nation that been standing over both of them all these years, The US of A..... America will want them to carry on regardless of any ruling, they want 'Assange' banged up long side 'Manning' and all others who prove what a criminal nation the US truly is...



    Julian Assange is in arbitrary detention, UN panel finds

    WikiLeaks chief, who is avoiding extradition by living in Ecuadorian embassy, has won UN backing

    Esther Addley, Owen Bowcott and Jessica Elgot in London, Paul Farrell in Sydney and David Crouch in Gothenburg
    Thursday 4 February 2016



    A United Nations panel has decided that Julian Assange’s three-and-a-half years in the Ecuadorian embassy amount to “arbitrary detention”, leading his lawyers to call for the Swedish extradition request to be dropped immediately.

    A Swedish foreign ministry spokeswoman confirmed that the UN panel, due to publish its findings on Friday, had concluded that Assange was “arbitrarily detained”.

    The WikiLeaks founder sought asylum from Ecuador in June 2012 to avoid extradition to Sweden to face questioning over rape and sexual assault allegations, which he denies.

    The panel’s findings were disclosed to the Swedish and British governments on 22 January, and will be published on Friday morning. Their judgment is not legally binding but can be used to apply pressure on states in human rights cases.

    Anna Ekberg, spokesperson for the Swedish foreign ministry, said: “The UN working group on arbitrary detention has concluded that Mr Assange is arbitrarily detained. The working group’s view differs from that of the Swedish authorities. We will forward a reply to the working group tomorrow. It will be more clear tomorrow why we reject the working group’s conclusions.”

    Assange’s Swedish lawyer, Per Samuelson, said earlier that if the working group found in his favour, “there is only one solution for Marianne Ny [the Swedish prosecutor seeking Assange’s extradition], and that is to immediately release him and drop the case”. Samuelson added: “If he is regarded as detained, that means he has served his time, so I see no other option for Sweden but to close the case.”

    Assange’s lawyers demanded assurances from the UK that he would not be arrested and subjected to extradition proceedings to face potential prosecution over WikiLeaks’ publishing activities.

    much more to read: Julian Assange is in arbitrary detention, UN panel finds | Media | The Guardian
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    I told you so....

    dozens of members turned up to read the thread but once again, no one was brave enough to leave their view on the story or my take on it....

    Britain and Sweden are to carry on 'regardless' of the UN ruling, next stop an international court

    America will want them to carry on regardless of any ruling, they want 'Assange' banged up long side 'Manning' and all others who prove what a criminal nation the US truly is...

    'I have been vindicated': Gloating Assange blasts UK Government's 'insulting' response to UN report saying he has been 'arbitrarily detained' after minister calls it 'ridiculous'

    • Julian Assange has been living in the Ecuadorian embassy since 2012
    • Wikileaks founder wanted for questioning in Sweden over rape allegation
    • He fears extradition to Sweden, claiming he will be transported to the U.S.
    • Filed complaint with UN that he is being 'unlawfully detained' at embassy
    • UN ruling has no legal effect on Britain and Sweden - but adds pressure
    • Philip Hammond has called UN working group's report 'frankly ridiculous'
    • But Assange today claimed the ruling was a 'victory' and 'vindication'


    By SARA MALM FOR MAILONLINE
    PUBLISHED: 5 February 2016


    Julian Assange has lashed out at the British Government for rubbishing a UN decision that he is being unlawfully detained, claiming he has been 'vindicated'.



    Earlier today, Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond branded the UN panel's report on Assange 'ridiculous' and said the WikiLeaks founder is a 'fugitive from justice' avoiding lawful arrest by hiding out at the embassy.

    But in a speech from the balcony of the Ecuadorian embassy in London, Assange has declared the UN report a 'victory of historical importance'.

    He told a scrum of journalists and supporters: 'How sweet it is! This is a victory that cannot be denied. It is a victory of historical importance.

    'There have been comments by Philip Hammond, the foreign minister of this country and says this changes nothing. Hammond may be a perfectly nice person but his comments are merely rhetoric.

    Brandishing a hard copy of the panel's opinion, he was dressed in a charcoal suit and tie and squinted in the daylight as he spoke. He paused frequently, apparently overwhelmed.

    Referring to his children, the 44-year-old Australian said: 'It's time that they had their father back. That will happen one way or the other.

    'I'm tough, I'm hardened by this process and I can take it. However, what right does this government or the US government or the Swedish government have to deny my children their right to their father for five years?

    'My children are completely innocent parties to what has happened. They are not in the business of holding government to account. They are in the business of being children.'

    He further claimed he was under an 'illegal, immoral, unethical detention' after British police said they would arrest him as soon as he sets foot outside the embassy onto British soil to extradite him to Sweden.

    'It is the end of the road for legal arguments by the UK and Sweden. Those arguments lost and the time for an appeal is over.'

    Earlier today, speaking via video link, Assange said the U.N. panel's finding that he has been arbitrarily detained is a 'vindication', falsely claiming that the decision is legally binding.

    'I've read this morning this comments of Philip Hammond insulting the United Nations, calling the decision ridiculous,' the 44-year-old said.

    'I find those comments to be beneath the stature that a foreign minister should express in this situation.'

    Both Sweden and the UK have made it clear that they reject the UN panel's findings, saying they have no legal force, and that the arrest warrant for Assange still stands.

    still much more to read: UN's call to 'free' Julian Assange is deemed 'ridiculous' by British Government | Daily Mail Online

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    double the numbers of members have come to the thread, and sadly once again not one brave person who felt the could comment... no worry be, the battle to bring 'Assange' back to America in changes on hands and feet, is not over.. the next step as I said will be in a international court of law, so I say bring it on




    FEBRUARY 5, 2016

    On Assange, Following the Rules or Flouting Them?

    Dinah PoKempner
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    It should not have been terribly surprising to Sweden or the United Kingdom that the United Nations Working Group on Arbitrary Detention found that the various forms of confinement suffered by WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange violate his human rights. The Working Group has many times warned that it is unlawful to force someone to choose between liberty and a fundamental right, such as asylum, which Assange now enjoys only so long as he stays inside the walls of the Ecuadorean embassy.

    What is news are the deplorable rhetorical parries from the UK and Swedish governments, who both stated not just disagreement, but that the Working Group opinion would have absolutely no effect on their actions. This is not what one expects from democratic governments who usually support the UN mechanisms and international law.

    “This changes nothing,” declared the UK Foreign & Commonwealth Office. The foreign secretary diplomatically called the ruling “frankly ridiculous,” disparaging the Working Group as “a group of laypeople, not lawyers” (in fact, many of the experts are professors of law or human rights or both). Sweden managed to avoid imprecation, but was no less unreceptive. The Foreign Ministry declared that the Working Group had no right to “interfere in an ongoing case handled by a Swedish public authority” and continued to insist that “Mr. Assange is free to leave the Embassy at any point.” As for the Prosecutor’s Office, it declared the UN body’s opinion “has no formal impact on the ongoing investigation, according to Swedish law.”

    While the Working Group does not have the authority to force governments to heed its decisions, it is the authoritative voice of the UN on the issue of arbitrary detention, and its opinions are given great weight as interpretations of binding international law obligations. The Office of the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights today attempted to remind Sweden and the UK of that in a discrete Note to Editors, saying the opinions should be taken into consideration as they are based on international human rights law that binds the relevant states.

    Not much consideration appears to be happening. The UK has said that it will arrest Assange if he leaves the shelter of the embassy, either because of the European arrest warrant the Swedish prosecutor issued to investigate allegations of sexual offenses, or because he violated the conditions of his house arrest by going directly from his last UK court appearance to the Ecuadorean embassy in London to apply for asylum.

    so much more to read: https://www.hrw.org/news/2016/02/05/...flouting-them?

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    Maybe you call it 'arbitrary detention' -- I call it hiding like a puss in the Ecuadorian embassy. He's wanted and he doesn't want to face the charges.
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    The UN should have been thrown out of NYC and the USA long ago, its a pile of crap. I take zero stock in anything they have to say

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    Quote Originally Posted by publius3 View Post
    Maybe you call it 'arbitrary detention' -- I call it hiding like a puss in the Ecuadorian embassy. He's wanted and he doesn't want to face the charges.
    Hilariously, his lawyer thinks that his time hiding from the law should count as time served.

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    Quote Originally Posted by publius3 View Post
    Maybe you call it 'arbitrary detention' -- I call it hiding like a puss in the Ecuadorian embassy. He's wanted and he doesn't want to face the charges.
    If the charges were legitimate, I would agree. As it is, it looks to me no different then many an unwanted activist in Russia who wound up detained by police with, say, a baggie of drugs in his or her pocket, and no idea how it got there, all of a sudden, and then - prison for possession. Just a government using the law enforcement system to shut a man up...
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    From what I understand, Sweden has enough of a rape problem at the moment. They don't need Julian Assange running free to add to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by publius3 View Post
    Maybe you call it 'arbitrary detention' -- I call it hiding like a puss in the Ecuadorian embassy. He's wanted and he doesn't want to face the charges.
    and the IRONY is.. Even if he was convicted, which is DOUBTFUL...
    Sweden doesn't often convict on He Said She said cases... and even if by the SLIM possibility
    he was convicted, he MIGHT get 2 years.. and that is a HEAVY MIGHT..
    and to top that off, Swedish prison is a CAKE walk.

    I could understand if it was a US System he was running from... This is Sweden..

    They are ALLLL about the human rights here.. so much that Prison, is NOT really
    for PUNISHMENT here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    From what I understand, Sweden has enough of a rape problem at the moment. They don't need Julian Assange running free to add to it.
    NOT that I like the guy, cuz I think he is kind of a slime... BUT, I am ONLY willing to
    believe this, IF he is actually convicted.

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