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    Obama: "There's little difference between Communism and Capitalism".

    Reason 1001 he is a fucking moron.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BadFTesAPzY#t=83
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goofball View Post
    Reason 1001 he is a fucking moron.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BadFTesAPzY#t=83
    Do you have a HEARING PROBLEM?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goofball View Post
    Reason 1001 he is a fucking moron.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BadFTesAPzY#t=83
    Except that's not what he said. Only a Goofball would claim that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cpicturetaker12 View Post
    Do you have a HEARING PROBLEM?

    Maybe "Goofball" can give us the time code where the president said what he claims in his OP title, eh?

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    Difference between capitalism and communism is that capitalism follows a Darwinian concept of survival of the fittest, while communism focus on social equality. Both have upsides and downsides, being each others' polar opposite.

    The benefit of liberalism/capitalism (in the US 'liberal' has a weird left-wing connotation, for some odd reason) is that it acts as society's locomotive. If those that want to work hard for their own personal advance (financial or otherwise) do so while benefitting the society as a whole (by creating jobs etc.), then that society will be constantly dynamic and able to adapt to any future scenario. Because those with fresh ideas reap the rewards. The downside is that liberal people/capitalists too often wind up stomping on the bottom of society to get there, exploiting the masses, drowning the little people, which was Karl Marx' nightmare. This is sought countered by communism/socialism (or in the US "egalitarianism", to make it sound less 'red'), which seeks to pull up that very bottom. So socialism and liberalism are opposite extremes of each other. The downside of socialism is that it too often winds up rewarding laziness, thus killing the locomotive of society, which would be what collapsed the Soviet Union in the end. Trying to eliminate human social hierarchy altogether is aparently not supported by human nature. But then having too far between top and bottom ... that's what creates those compounds in Florida for old people with armed guards having too itchy trigger fingers.

    Soviet Russia fell behind, because they traditionally ignored capitalism. But conversely, America has fallen behind, because they traditionally focus too little on social responsibility.
    Seems even the Chinese got the point of the collapse of the Soviet experiment and gradually introduced capitalism, which seems to benefit them. 'Course they have the traditional Yin and Yang school of thought, so the concept of a golden mean might come more natural for them. Why is that still so hard to fathom for the West? We always end up going for either one extreme or the other.

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    Capitalism is responsible for the best standard of living ever known to civilized man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusher View Post
    Capitalism is responsible for the best standard of living ever known to civilized man.
    Agreed. But there are different FORMS or FLAVORS of capitalism. Some very desirable, and some others not very desirable at all. Capitalism is not some monolithic system that is identical everywhere it is found.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusher View Post
    Capitalism is responsible for the best standard of living ever known to civilized man.
    Not in the US, aparently. Go to Canada with a bit more social responsibility added to the mix, it seems a different story. Not too much, not too little.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CEngelbrecht View Post
    Not in the US, aparently. Go to Canada with a bit more social responsibility added to the mix, it seems a different story. Not too much, not too little.
    Canada is still a capitalist society. In fact, ALL the rich societies in the world are capitalist societies. In that sense, Crusher is right. On the other hand, conservatives are generally very unwilling to admit that all those same rich societies have HIGH levels of taxation. If you want to live in a rich country, you had better expect to pay high taxes. And it doesn't take a lot of deep thought to realize why. If you want to live in a rich country, you are going to need robust infrastructure, i.e., good roads and airports; you are going to need strong schools and world-class colleges and universities; and you will need to be generous in your support of scientific and technological research and development, the seed corn of capitalist economies everywhere.

    In sharp contrast, the POOR countries of the world mostly have very LOW levels of taxation. And poor infrastructure, lousy schools, etc., etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cpicturetaker12 View Post
    Do you have a HEARING PROBLEM?
    He calls himself goofball. Most folks..ain't so kind.

    Context? Hey.. China is Hyper Capitalist and ...sort of Commie. But...that's not really the topic.

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