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    "Betrayal" - Canadian PM Trudeau approves pipeline expansion

    To widespread dismay, Canada Prime Minister Justin Trudeau late Tuesday announced the government's approval of the expansion of Kinder Morgan Trans Mountain pipeline, which will transport tar sands oil from northern Alberta to the British Columbia coast. Trudeau's announcement galvanized Indigenous communities, environmentalists, activists, and politicians in B.C. and across Canada, who have long campaigned against the pipeline.

    The Union of B.C. Indian Chiefs has launched an opposition campaign, called Coast Protectors, to which 4,000 people have already pledged support, the organizers say. North American tribes belonging to the Treaty Alliance Against Tar Sands Expansion have also vowed to block the project, which will carry 895,000 barrels of tar sands bitumen from the mines in Alberta to a terminal at Burrard Inlet in Burnaby, B.C.

    Local politicians in B.C. also condemned the federal government's decision. Burnaby Mayor Derek Corrigan said that he was "deeply disappointed and depressed." The decision, Corrigan said, "bows to the pressure of the oil lobbyists at the expense of Burnaby's—and all of Canada's—economy and environment, while ignoring the science-based evidence as to the harm this pipeline project will cause on land and water, even without a spill."

    The approvals raise grave doubts how these and additional pipelines, including Keystone XL and Energy East, can fit with Canada's commitment to the Paris climate agreement and Alberta's cap on tar sands emissions," noted the Canadian advocacy group Environmental Defence.

    'Betrayal': Trudeau Approves Kinder Morgan Pipeline Expansion | Common Dreams | Breaking News & Views for the Progressive Community
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    If they don't want a pipeline, another option is those self-exploding oil trains, which have become so popular in the U.S.
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    A pipeline exploded too recently in NY.
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    I hope these indian chiefs know how to ride a horse because their trucks are going to break down with no oil.

    Hypocrites. How the hell do they think oil gets to places?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sassy View Post
    A pipeline exploded too recently in NY.
    How many people killed?

    Pipelines do leak and sometimes even explode.

    There is no 100% safe method to transport oil.

    Ask the people in Lac-Megantic Quebec about those oil trains.

    It was in July 2013 when a 74 car oil train derailed in town and killed 47 people and destroyed 30 buildings.

    Not very long ago and just a few miles from Maine.

    I can understand why Canadians would want a pipeline instead of more self exploding oil trains.

    Pipelines are safer than trains for transporting oil.

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    Unexpected. But, Canada needs trade with China, and other Asian countries, including for our oil; to counter and make up for whatever damage President Trump might do to US-Canada trade relations.
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    Does Canada want to borrow some of our Dakota Pipeline "protesters"?

    We seem to have plenty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    Unexpected. But, Canada needs trade with China, and other Asian countries, including for our oil; to counter and make up for whatever damage President Trump might do to US-Canada trade relations.
    Its really going to cause major issues with First Nation tribes. They really helped put Trudeau in office and this is a major issue for them. It isn't going to end well because there is no path that doesn't cross their lands. He made a campaign promise to them this wouldn't happen, now it looks like it was just a ruse to get them out to vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    Its really going to cause major issues with First Nation tribes. They really helped put Trudeau in office and this is a major issue for them. It isn't going to end well because there is no path that doesn't cross their lands. He made a campaign promise to them this wouldn't happen, now it looks like it was just a ruse to get them out to vote.
    Deplorable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miller47 View Post
    If they don't want a pipeline, another option is those self-exploding oil trains, which have become so popular in the U.S.
    As was most vividly seen in Lac Megantic, Quebec where 47 people were killed in an oil train derailment that blew up half the town.

    I don't know if the dismay is widespread, or just vocal and organized. There may be a quiet majority of people like me who think employment, industry, precious resources and protecting the environment are ALL important.

    It is a betrayal of the people who normally vote Green or NDP though, and voted for him this time instead. They must be pissed. And it comes just days after his heartfelt, mooning, lavish praise for Fidel fucking Castro

    But where do people think their fuel and cell phones and quality of life comes from? Alaskan oil comes past us to Washington State refineries and is sold to us. We pay for it to keep our city and airport in business. No one protests that. But put Canadian oil in that EXACT same waterway, for OUR benefit, and people lose their shit.

    Meanwhile Albertans who spent decades paying for our social welfare nationwide are desperate for economic relief.

    We should have 5 refineries up that coast with Albertan oil undercutting WA state to Asia. But we're too busy navel-gazing and bitching.

    There's a dark part of my soul that thinks if anyone wants to protest this they must have a ful time job with benefits. Because otherwise - they should be taking courses in pipeline maintenance - not beating a drum.

    Grrrr.
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