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Thread: Dylann Roof gets DEATH PENALTY

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    Your ending highly depends on what type of religion one espouses. Maybe Christians are wrong? Maybe the Jews are right? Or the Buddhists? Or the Baha'i?

    He will spend the next 20 years on death row exhausting his appeals for a reduced sentence. It's highly unlikely that you're right and he doesn't appeal the death penalty. And you, the taxpayer, will be paying for all of that.
    Or pay for his food and living quarters for the rest of his life.
    And that is a lot better than what his victims got.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rorschach View Post
    --No. In BOTH cases, those who take part, understand the wages they are playing with. Both are considered acts of war.

    In the case of Terrorism, these sorts can still cause issues in prison, often, even recruiting.

    In the case of Treason, the THREAT of Death may be useful in getting intel from them.

    NOTE that in neither case did I say the Death Penalty should be automatic. Only that it should be an option.

    NOTE also, that I feel we need LONGER sentences (with near continuous "classes/treatments" for sexual abusers, as that has an incredibly high rate of recidivism.



    --Yes, and, then the Death Penalty should be up to the Jury/Judge, but still an option. (I would probably vote "Yes," for a death penalty, in such a case. Especially, if the fool made the bomb himself.)
    I understand your position. I don't agree with it but I understand. I would not be willing to condemn a person to death. Life in prison, yes. Death, no.
    Jonathan Pollard got basically a life sentence, although he was pardoned a year or two ago, and I don't think he was given any opportunity to influence anyone else to act for a foreign government. I understand that with ideological fanatics it might prove harder to limit their influence in prison but it can be done. And even if they do influence someone the prison authorities should be on high alert with regards to the person or persons that they've associated with. Once those people are out (which I highly doubt would be the case but let's suppose) they would immediately be on a watchlist. They might even prove as an unwitting asset leading to discoveries which might never have happened had the original terrorist been killed by the states for his acts.

    I think it's much cheaper in almost all cases to keep them alive. And I'm not just talking about the economics of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by One View Post
    Or pay for his food and living quarters for the rest of his life.
    And that is a lot better than what his victims got.
    Depending on the type of prison treatment of him by the guards and fellow prisoners might prove far worse than what his victims got.
    But it's not just about the victims and their families. The judicial system is a social construct and must have the best interests of the society as whole as its aim.
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    Quote Originally Posted by galatin View Post
    Killing Dylan Roof, pardon me ! Execute him..... Will it stop others committing hatred led crimes ? And purchasing guns for this purpose ??
    Exactly no one executed ever became a REPEAT offender.

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    But don't you think, that even if it is not probable that Dylann Roof whatever his futuremay be (dead or alive in a jail) will assassiante other people, his presence on all medias can lead some mad people to perpetrate crimes...... So your way of reasoning is a bit short for me....

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    Get rid of him. He's overhead we don't need and does not deserve to live.

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    The difference is ...
    ... you let kill him?

    He liked to destroy his enemies. His enemies were people believing in god. He murdered them in the most holy moment of their life, when they were ready to speak with god and to sing him their songs of love and life. I will remember them in this way: singing and dying for our god.

    God made once a sign on Cain - the murderer of his brother Abel - not on reason of our revenge or our justice. He made it on reason of his grace and his justice.

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    Depending on the type of prison treatment of him by the guards and fellow prisoners might prove far worse than what his victims got.
    But it's not just about the victims and their families. The judicial system is a social construct and must have the best interests of the society as whole as its aim.
    For there to be true justice, the victims MUST be considered.

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    For there to be true justice, the victims MUST be considered.
    Is it not written to try to be an "eye for an eye"? So perhaps we should just simple try to be a "sister for a sister" and a "brother for a brother" - and what about to give "a white skin for a black skin" and "a black skin for a white skin"? Racism has to die - not human beings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    Exactly no one executed ever became a REPEAT offender.
    Then why don't we just remove their eyes. Someone once suggested that and the guy on the radio who supported the death penalty said that was cruel. The guy pointed out if the guy is blind you don't have to keep him in prison,it would be a great deterrent for people to see him walking around with a cane. The guy was tongue-in-cheek but then reacted when the guy on the radio said how cruel it was. But killing someone is not cruel

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