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    New Hampshire, Missouri and Kentucky set to become right to work states

    Just days after Kentucky became the 27th state in the nation with such an anti-worker law, Republicans controlling legislatures in New Hampshire and Missouri are working fast to pass their own so-called right-to-work laws.

    In Missouri, a "sometimes tense House hearing" took place Tuesday, as the Associated Press reported, where lawmakers have several right to work proposals. A Senate hearing is scheduled for Wednesday, and the governorship now being held by a Republican means "the likely end of meaningful opposition to the bill," the Columbia Missourian reports. Local Fox affiliate KTVI added: "Making Missouri a right-to-work state is a big priority for Governor Eric Greitens."

    The New Hampshire state house on Tuesday also saw a public hearing that drew hundreds concerned over a proposed right-to-work law, which matches verbatim (pdf) a model bill from the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC), as the Center for Media and Democracy's ALECExposed project shows.
    According to the Concord Monitor, "The proposal's lively first public hearing dragged on for four hours in a packed Representatives Hall. When it ended, the Senate Commerce Committee took less than hour to endorse the bill in a 3-2 vote along party lines."

    Protests Erupt as Lawmakers Continue Spread of Anti-Worker Legislation Nationwide | Common Dreams | Breaking News & Views for the Progressive Community

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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    Just days after Kentucky became the 27th state in the nation with such an anti-worker law, Republicans controlling legislatures in New Hampshire and Missouri are working fast to pass their own so-called right-to-work laws.

    In Missouri, a "sometimes tense House hearing" took place Tuesday, as the Associated Press reported, where lawmakers have several right to work proposals. A Senate hearing is scheduled for Wednesday, and the governorship now being held by a Republican means "the likely end of meaningful opposition to the bill," the Columbia Missourian reports. Local Fox affiliate KTVI added: "Making Missouri a right-to-work state is a big priority for Governor Eric Greitens."

    The New Hampshire state house on Tuesday also saw a public hearing that drew hundreds concerned over a proposed right-to-work law, which matches verbatim (pdf) a model bill from the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC), as the Center for Media and Democracy's ALECExposed project shows.
    According to the Concord Monitor, "The proposal's lively first public hearing dragged on for four hours in a packed Representatives Hall. When it ended, the Senate Commerce Committee took less than hour to endorse the bill in a 3-2 vote along party lines."

    Protests Erupt as Lawmakers Continue Spread of Anti-Worker Legislation Nationwide | Common Dreams | Breaking News & Views for the Progressive Community
    I"m sorry but I do not believe that right to work laws constitute "anti worker." It just doesn't. Unions are, essentially, a wing of the democratic party where in a worse case scenario managed to drain wages from workers and transfer it to union bosses and democratic politicians. The effect on whole sections of the country and industries has been catastrophic.

    They don't call a whole swath of the former industrialized north "the rust belt" for nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    I"m sorry but I do not believe that right to work laws constitute "anti worker." It just doesn't. Unions are, essentially, a wing of the democratic party where in a worse case scenario managed to drain wages from workers and transfer it to union bosses and democratic politicians. The effect on whole sections of the country and industries has been catastrophic.

    They don't call a whole swath of the former industrialized north "the rust belt" for nothing.
    Yes its interesting how younger union workers view right to work. I work with union construction trade workers and the ones under maybe 50 or so love the idea of right to work. They think unions should go to bat for them and take care of them without them having to pay dues. They love that idea. I guess it seems to be more of a generational thing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    Just days after Kentucky became the 27th state in the nation with such an anti-worker law, Republicans controlling legislatures in New Hampshire and Missouri are working fast to pass their own so-called right-to-work laws.

    In Missouri, a "sometimes tense House hearing" took place Tuesday, as the Associated Press reported, where lawmakers have several right to work proposals. A Senate hearing is scheduled for Wednesday, and the governorship now being held by a Republican means "the likely end of meaningful opposition to the bill," the Columbia Missourian reports. Local Fox affiliate KTVI added: "Making Missouri a right-to-work state is a big priority for Governor Eric Greitens."

    The New Hampshire state house on Tuesday also saw a public hearing that drew hundreds concerned over a proposed right-to-work law, which matches verbatim (pdf) a model bill from the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC), as the Center for Media and Democracy's ALECExposed project shows.
    According to the Concord Monitor, "The proposal's lively first public hearing dragged on for four hours in a packed Representatives Hall. When it ended, the Senate Commerce Committee took less than hour to endorse the bill in a 3-2 vote along party lines."

    Protests Erupt as Lawmakers Continue Spread of Anti-Worker Legislation Nationwide | Common Dreams | Breaking News & Views for the Progressive Community
    Good news for the citizens of those states.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    Yes its interesting how younger union workers view right to work. I work with union construction trade workers and the ones under maybe 50 or so love the idea of right to work. They think unions should go to bat for them and take care of them without them having to pay dues. They love that idea. I guess it seems to be more of a generational thing?
    Kind of an "entitled" attitude. Funny but sad.


    Personally have mixed feelings with regard to modern day unions. Solid concept. Too often a corrupt implementation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pragmatic View Post
    Kind of an "entitled" attitude. Funny but sad.


    Personally have mixed feelings with regard to modern day unions. Solid concept. Too often a corrupt implementation.
    It is a bit entitled. I suspect its due to not understanding the history and concept of unions? Not sure really but they sure do complain about their dues. Too often younger people don't have the loyalty older workers had since so many nowadays change jobs so frequently.

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    It's like health insurance. Nobody wants to be made to buy it, but when you get cancer and you're not insured you demand treatment despite ability to pay — everyone does. Nobody wants to pay dues, but when the capital reinvests overseas, closes plants and cuts wages over the objections of a toothless, resourceless union, they freak the fuck out and vote for someone like Trump to stop it.

    People's tremendous inability to recognize their longterm interest is getting out of hand.

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    What are they going to do when automation advances to the point where their labors no longer have longterm value of any kind? They'll enjoy the right to be terminated wholesale and head to the soup kitchen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    It's like health insurance. Nobody wants to be made to buy it, but when you get cancer and you're not insured you demand treatment despite ability to pay — everyone does. Nobody wants to pay dues, but when the capital reinvests overseas, closes plants and cuts wages over the objections of a toothless, resourceless union, they freak the fuck out and vote for someone like Trump to stop it.

    People's tremendous inability to recognize their longterm interest is getting out of hand.
    So the Union striking to keep high wages for unskilled jobs encourages employers not to move elsewhere?

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    What data do these states have to make them think this is a good idea?

    Is it all about a misunderstanding of the importance of unions (or about the well-to-do having legislatures in their pockets and using their personal legislators to make it easier for them to exploit labor)? Or is there some numerical economic justification for this?

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