IF HE IS NOT GOING TO DO HIS JOB. then he should be replaced.
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IF HE IS NOT GOING TO DO HIS JOB. then he should be replaced.
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Please show where liberals here did some of the stuff you allege, specific posts please. And then explain how this proves what liberals think (with a broad brush, as you imply).
I wouldn't take a BB from a mile for the Weaselheaded Fucknugget.
What concerns me is that Trump was talking about having his own private security in the WH in addition to (instead of?) the SS. That would be bad. I support the American Praetorian Guard, but no leader in a democratic republic should have a separate force for his own protection, someone not bound by laws and oaths to the US.
But, I agree. With you and Rasselas and others here.
There is no excuse for such behavior. This agent holds a position of immense trust, safeguarding the head of state. No place for this sort of immaturity.
I don't want to use Putin as a positive example for anything, but I have brought up his own Secret Service, the FSO
It is my humble opinion that, objectively, the FSO is superior, this way, to the US Secret Service.
Specifically because of their hard discipline.
The FSO (and their sister agency, the FSB, which handles counter-intelligence, counter-terrorism, government corruption, as well as high-level, multi-regional organized crime, and other especially heinous crimes of national prominence) descend directly from the KGB. The FSO, in the Soviet days, was simple the 9th Directorate of the KGB, responsible for protecting the General secretary of the Communist Party and the other members of the Politburo
1st Directorate were the spooks, foreign intelligence, which is now also an independent agency, the SVR (although there are persistent rumors that Putin may indeed bring SVR and FSB back together into one in near future, as he works to rebuild the KGB in which he worked since youth to its former glory...)
The other Directorates were all counter-intel and border security, all of which is in the hands of the modern FSB.
But the old traditions did not go anywhere. Most of the officers in leading ranks of all three of these agencies, FSO, FSB, and SVR, are old school career KGB agents.
These old KGB traditions are pounded into the men of the FSO (and there are no women there, btw), since young years, in the Academy
including the old KGB motto, in rough translation: "Cold heart, quiet mind, steady hands."
That means, you don't THINK, you don't FEEL, you don't have your own thoughts and feelings. You follow your orders. Period. If you are told to protect someone, you do so. If you are then told to fucking kill that same person, you do that too, without a second thought They are brainwashed into this. They are kept in uniform jobs, don't get anywhere near a VIP protective detail, until this philosophy becomes their total mantra.
Things such as this: US Secret Service Cartagena scandal 'involved 20 women' - BBC News
This is simply impossible in the FSO. Inconceivable. Unimaginable. That would be bringing disgrace to the organization. A man who did that could be killed by his own colleagues, and I mean, literally, fucking killed, physically eliminated, on orders of superiors.
And going on social media to share your opinions about who you are assigned to guard? Are you joking? lol FSO agents don't even use social media. Nobody knows who any of them are, and that's the way its supposed to be.
As an example, today, whether any of them like it or not, aside from Putin and Medvedev, Patriarch Kirill of the Orthodox Church gets an FSO detail also
Keep in mind, again, the FSO descends from the KGB who, in turn, traces their lineage to the Bolshevik Revolution and subsequent formation of the first Commie secret police, the Cheka, by Felix Dzerzhinsky
Part of the whole reason for the formation of this new force, was to suppress and even perhaps outright purge and exterminate whole classes of Russian society the Bolsheviks/Communists saw as their enemies, including the royalty and nobility; the intelligentsia; Tsarist officers from the old Imperial Army; Cossacks; bourgeois (the rich, merchants and such); kulaks (wealthier peasants who owned the land they used for farming, this was all taken away from them for use of the new collective farms); and, yes, the Orthodox Church, whom the Communists feared as an ideological rival, and hated, as a loyal supporter of the monarchy.
The Church, today, has sacred icons depicting the horrors of the early years of Bolshevik rule, Chekists ransacking churches and cathedrals, robbing and looting anything valuable, burning crosses, beating, arresting, and killing clerics
They have many, many martyrs from those days...
And, while policy towards the Church in the USSR softened over time, the Communist authorities always remained suspicious of them, and the Cheka, then, under Stalin, NKVD, and then KGB kept an eye on them, always, as one of their important tasks. Mistrust and resentment towards the Church was drilled and indeed bred into generations of agents and officers (and I mean bred, as, often enough, sons of Cheka/NKVD/KGB men would follow their fathers into the service; and were raised for it accordingly, since early age).
And yet, today, things have changed completely, the Church has a privileged position in society now, pretty much like under the Tsars; and the FSO, the modern D-9, now must protect the head of the Church! Yet, nobody grumbles. I don't know if they assign the more religious agents to this job (they had changed their anti-Church philosophy very much in recent years too; the FSO Academy in Moscow actually has a chapel on the premises now!) But they perform their assigned task, without complaint. Whatever their personal feelings on it may be, the hard-as-steel discipline of the KGB overrules all of it. Do your job and keep your mouth shut. Nobody gives a shit about your feelings.
And that, honestly, is the way it should be, in that kind of work. Too important to be any other way.
This, in short, is why I think the Russian FSO is superior to the US SS. And I am NOT happy to say that.