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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    At one point growing up we had 11 people living in a 900 sq ft house when my aunt, uncle and cousins moved in to help all of us afford a place to live. But nowadays with so many dysfunctional families, many have no family to turn to. Or they wouldn't allow them to move in.
    And that is what we have become as a nation. So you know what it is like,too?

    But many immagrents are still doing that today. I see it in East Dayton. Many immigrants have bought the old abandoned houses,pained,fixed them up. It is now a thriving neighborhood. Many of them were from Eurpoean countries.used to be Polish and Appalachian,if you can picture that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLeRoy View Post
    Hello? Hello? Earth to webrockk! Earth to webrockk!

    George W. Bush was the NUMBER ONE CHEERLEADER for the Great American Housing Bubble of the 2000's. For Christ's sake, he BRAGGED about it in SEVERAL of his State-of-the-Union speeches. TRUMPETED the growing rate of home ownership as if it was a MAJOR triumph for his administration.

    You just weren't paying ATTENTION.

    Seems to be a frequent issue with you.
    BushCo wasn't going to shoot themselves in the foot by throwing a monkey wrench into the fake prosperity Bill Clinton's and Henry Cisneros' fascistic "National Homeownership Strategy" created....though they did finally recognize what was happening and try to reign it in -- only to be met with ranking Democrats like Barney Frank and Maxine Waters flatly denying there was a problem while leveling accusations of "racism" towards anyone who thought so.

    "Great Society", indeed
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLeRoy View Post
    MaryAnne, it seems as though you are arguing that people should NEVER buy a home. There would be a risk that home prices might suddenly collapse, leaving them with a mortgage loan that is MUCH greater than the market value of the home. When people become far underwater on their mortgage, they CANNOT sell without losing ENORMOUS amounts of money, which might leave them unable to ever retire. Yes, you could just 'walk away' from your home. But do that, and your credit rating will be ruined for YEARS.
    No,I never said anything close to that. But many did over extend themselves in buying houses,or bought at the top of the market.

    I said,you try and find work before you sink in the mire. I have gone through some tough times, but I have always prided myself on paying my bills. I have stretched,done all kinds of things to make sure my family had the best I could give them.

    I am comfortable now,with a good income, but will never forget the hard times. That is why defeat is not in my vocabulary.

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    Note here,I am the worlds biggest bargain hunter. But if I have to pay more to create and keep jobs here,I will gladly do that.

    I am sick to death of the cheap junk we get from over seas. Our retails stores are full of cheap clothes on Clearance racks because the do not sell.

    While shopping for a new born baby boy yesterday I looked at the new merchandise. Cheap,crappy clothes that do not fit. I wanted to ask who the Buyers were. It is disgusting,yet they wonder why they are failing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eve1 View Post
    Actually moving to were the jobs are will solve a lot of people's problems. I can not, for the life of me, understand why people stay put in a dying town. MOVE FOR F_CKS SAKE.
    It takes MONEY to move...that is the reason. Where will they live? Why do the folks in Detroit stay in a burned down, boarded up hell hole?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blueneck View Post
    Not only that, but cities with lots of jobs also have extraordinarily high rent.
    Plus, if you do pick up and move, you have to come up with first and last month rent, plus security deposit. Then you need to eat until you receive your first paycheck. If you have kids, they have expenses as well. You are correct...look at the oil towns that popped up in the Dakotas and Wyoming....the rent is out of control in those places. They earn a great wage, but rent is 3K per month.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLeRoy View Post
    Coal is a STUPID energy source. A 19th century energy source.

    Some folks are gonna have to be dragged kicking and screaming into the 21st century.

    When they stop kicking and screaming, and take a look around, they will get a look of wonderment on their faces, and ask howcum the air is so clean.
    Other important users of coal include alumina refineries, paper manufacturers, and the chemical and pharmaceutical industries. Several chemical products can be produced from the by-products of coal. Refined coal tar is used in the manufacture of chemicals, such as creosote oil, naphthalene, phenol, and benzene. Ammonia gas recovered from coke ovens is used to manufacture ammonia salts, nitric acid and agricultural fertilisers. Thousands of different products have coal or coal by-products as components: soap, aspirins, solvents, dyes, plastics and fibres, such as rayon and nylon.

    Coal is also an essential ingredient in the production of specialist products:

    Activated carbon - used in filters for water and air purification and in kidney dialysis machines.
    Carbon fibre - an extremely strong but light weight reinforcement material used in construction, mountain bikes and tennis rackets.
    Silicon metal - used to produce silicones and silanes, which are in turn used to make lubricants, water repellents, resins, cosmetics, hair shampoos and toothpastes.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    Another promise Kept... that gives him PA WV, and Michigan in 2020
    Buying votes, huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    That is what Eve1 believes we are still using. was my point.. This is the Lunacy of the left.
    Fine. So explain how this measure will increase employment in the coal industry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCProf View Post
    It takes MONEY to move...that is the reason. Where will they live? Why do the folks in Detroit stay in a burned down, boarded up hell hole?
    You know what it takes to move? A little guts!!!! Tell me if refugees are flush with cash when they run? My father moved when he was in debt up to his eye balls due to medical bills. He left behind my mother so he could pay her medical bills and decided to stay and call her over when the debt was paid. Within 5 years he had paid all his debts and had enough to put a down payment on a house. Was it easy? Hell no!!!! but when your back is against the wall you move the GOD DAMN wall. That was the 1950's and while it may not be the same world as today, many face the same problems. Borrow what you can and start digging your way out or die where you stand.
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