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    Veteran Member MaryAnne's Avatar
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    Universal Health Care In Vermont

    I am waiting to see what Bernie says about this bill that went down in 2014.

    Open to discussions from those who witnessed this. really,what happened to the bill?

    http://www.politico.com/story/2014/1...vermont-113711

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    told you so Amelia's Avatar
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    From your link:

    Vermontís public failure is especially frustrating to single-payer advocates because, they note, the Shumlin framework, which had gotten approval of the state legislature minus that key financing element, wasnít really a true single-payer plan. Notably, large businesses that operate in multiple states would have been exempt. And it was unclear whether or how enrollees in federal plans like Medicare and TRICARE could be integrated into the stateís plan.

    Those exemptions cut into the funding base while adding administrative complexity, eliminating one of the potential cost-saving elements of single-payer: simplicity.

    Too many exemptions carved out. Small state with many of its businesses overlapping with other states, and those businesses were allowed to opt out.

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    Those things could have been worked out,or left alone. Just cover those who need it. But,I guess,then it would not be single payer.

    The article also mentioned taxes. Baj mentions how the people in Vermont hate levies,which are really taxes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amelia View Post
    From your link:




    Too many exemptions carved out. Small state with many of its businesses overlapping with other states, and those businesses were allowed to opt out.

    That's just it, the big employers in the state got exemptions, since they said it was unfair they had to have large plans to cover all their worldwide employees. So the taxes would have to have gone up at least 11% and people were angry that they would pay for single payer, but if they worked for a big company, they would have to keep their plan at that company and couldn't partake in the single payer. Wont work unless everyone is in. That's the problem when a single state does it.

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