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    Joe is at least a likable guy, as opposed to some potential nominees, and the last nominees.

    DOB 11-20-42 means he's a member of the "over-the-hill-gang".

    He's nearly 4 years older than Trump.

    Both are too old to run in 2020.

    Doesn't mean it won't happen, of corpse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miller47 View Post
    Joe is at least a likable guy, as opposed to some potential nominees, and the last nominees.

    DOB 11-20-42 means he's a member of the "over-the-hill-gang".

    He's nearly 4 years older than Trump.

    Both are too old to run in 2020.

    Doesn't mean it won't happen, of corpse.
    Not sure if that was on purpose, but it's awesome either way.

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    I think he would have done better... mostly because I think he would have engaged with people more than Clinton did. I think its pointless to guess who would have won... I give Trump full credit for really working his peeps and bringing in the win. I expected Trump to lose handily, and Trump proved me wrong in a big way. Whoever he went up against, should have prepared for a serious fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief View Post
    I think he would have done better... mostly because I think he would have engaged with people more than Clinton did. I think its pointless to guess who would have won... I give Trump full credit for really working his peeps and bringing in the win. I expected Trump to lose handily, and Trump proved me wrong in a big way. Whoever he went up against, should have prepared for a serious fight.
    The Obama voters who went for Trump would have found Biden a more comfortable place to land.

    The never-Hillary rightwingers who wanted to be never-Trumpers but found her more awful than him would have found Biden a more comfortable place to land.

    That would have given him Wisconsin.
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    The Democrats did not see the writing on the wall despite Sanders' efforts to throw light on it, and I get the impression that most of the really committed Democrats still do not see it. Biden isn't as bad as Clinton, but a lot of people really want to get outside the box.

    Take the outsider quality of Trump and Sanders, drop the ugliness of Trump and the hardcore socialist thing of Bernie, and you've got a winner, pushing Wall Street cleanup, anti-trust enforcement and legislation, cleaning up the tax code, taxing corporations that pull profits from the U.S. before they ship their money overseas, clarifying immigration policies. Mix in controlling the deficit, as part of cleaning up the tax code. Saddling our children with debt should be an easy, politically usable, highly emotional issue to sell all of this stuff. And it's even true. Which shouldn't hurt it too much...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amelia View Post
    The Obama voters who went for Trump would have found Biden a more comfortable place to land.

    The never-Hillary rightwingers who wanted to be never-Trumpers but found her more awful than him would have found Biden a more comfortable place to land.

    That would have given him Wisconsin.
    I think one of the things that needed to happen would be... he'd have to beat Sanders in a fair fight. If he could have done that, he would have kept the Dem block united.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief View Post
    I think he would have done better... mostly because I think he would have engaged with people more than Clinton did. I think its pointless to guess who would have won... I give Trump full credit for really working his peeps and bringing in the win. I expected Trump to lose handily, and Trump proved me wrong in a big way. Whoever he went up against, should have prepared for a serious fight.
    Yeah, I don't see how he could have done worse than Hillary.

    Heavily favored, she said stupid things on a regular basis, fell down in public, took the rust belt for granted...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miller47 View Post
    Yeah, I don't see how he could have done worse than Hillary.

    Heavily favored, she said stupid things on a regular basis, fell down in public, took the rust belt for granted...
    Bullshit. This is the drivel the GOP sold. No one denies that if Hillary had the House and the Senate she would be off to the races passing legislation. That is why the right hates her...because she would have done as she promised.

    Clinton told rust belt the unvarnished truth...your old jobs ain't coming back. They wanted to hear lies and Trump complied. Clinton would have provided more of the little they have now...job training and health care insurance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DebateDrone View Post
    Bullshit. This is the drivel the GOP sold. No one denies that if Hillary had the House and the Senate she would be off to the races passing legislation. That is why the right hates her...because she would have done as she promised.

    Clinton told rust belt the unvarnished truth...your old jobs ain't coming back. They wanted to hear lies and Trump complied. Clinton would have provided more of the little they have now...job training and health care insurance.
    Okay, but wasn't it her responsibility as a candidate to explain how her plans would help those people? She failed to earn their votes because she didn't do her job as a candidate well, even if her ideas were better than Trump's ideas.

    I agree that she took the Midwest for granted, and really the rest of the country too. I think she believed Trump was a pushover and didn't put in sufficient effort to sell her candidacy. People go on and on and on about the Russians and how the election was stolen from them like they owned it. But at the end of the day, with or without the Russians... you had lots of people publishing stupid conspiracy theories and ridiculous propaganda about her, and nowadays pretty much about everyone.

    If one's face is on the ticket the buck stops with them. She failed to sell herself, lost the race, and Trump was elected fair and square. I'm not a Trump supporter, but at least I believe in our process, even when I don't get what I want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by webrockk View Post
    But...she was the most qualified EVAR! why couldn't we dumb, deplorable commoners SEE IT?!
    Because you are dumb and deplorable?

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