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Thread: Joe Biden regrets not running, "I could have won"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Nope. And he has had 8 years to communicate that data.

    Massive fail.
    See you don't know anything about him but yet your critical of him.

    That makes no sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sassy View Post
    Apparently it is.
    This is the land of the weird. We cannot make rational choices unless they are presented to us by a irrational choice of president.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sassy View Post
    Diversity in one person? So they have to be young, non-white, and female. That's awfully restrictive. I want the best person for the job.
    I want the shopping center for presidential candidates to include more than white men.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy View Post
    And sadly for Biden he was unable to distinguish himself from among those 8 - while Mrs. Clinton was and came very close to defeating Obama.

    So tell me again how the fact there was 8 of them proves he is somehow this great candidate when compared to Mrs. Clinton?
    It was during the 8 years following his primary loss to Clinton that he did distinguish himself.

    He whipped Ryan like a schoolboy during the VP debate in 2012, he burnished his foreign policy bona fides, was Obama's trusted confidant, and never lost his blue collar appeal.

    Clinton's advantage over him in 2008 included being former first lady to the still-popular Bill Clinton. When Biden became VP he surpassed that advantage.

    If Biden were in the race, the blue collar people desperate for a voice wouldn't have had to fall back to Trump when Sanders was eliminated. Democrats SHOULD have won. With practically anyone but the despised Hillary they would have won. With Biden's all-around experience, including how he would have campaigned in Wisconsin and Michigan and Pennsylvania, he would have easily won.


    Trump won because Democrats picked someone who was afraid to campaign in Wisconsin.
    Last edited by Amelia; 14th November 2017 at 09:33 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amelia View Post
    It was during the 8 years following his primary loss to Clinton that he did distinguish himself.

    He whipped Ryan like a schoolboy during the VP debate in 2012, he burnished his foreign policy bona fides, was Obama's trusted confidant, and never lost his blue collar appeal.

    Clinton's advantage over him in 2008 included being former first lady to the still-popular Bill Clinton. When Biden became VP he surpassed that advantage.

    If Biden were in the race, the blue collar people desperate for a voice wouldn't have had to fall back to Trump when Sanders was eliminated. Democrats SHOULD have won. With practically anyone but the despised Hillary they would have won. With Biden's all-around experience, including how he would have campaigned in Wisconsin and Michigan and Pennsylvania, he would have easily won.


    Trump won because Democrats picked someone who was afraid to campaign in Wisconsin.
    Poor whites need more than just a white male candidate on the Democratic party ticket to feel like their issues are being considered.

    And who GAF whether Biden defeated Ryan in a debate almost a decade ago? What RL value did that have for anyone apart from Biden himself?

    Yes, Biden might have defeated Trump (although I think the evidence that Bernie would have is much stronger), but although saving us from the misery of a Trump presidency has value, it's not the same as passing universal health care.
    Last edited by Madeline; 14th November 2017 at 09:54 AM.

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    Former Vice President Joe Biden not only regrets not running for president — he’s “fairly confident” he could have beaten Donald Trump.

    In an appearance at Colgate University on Friday, the university’s president, Brian W. Casey, asked Biden, “Did you ever think, what if? Any regrets that you didn’t run?” “I had planned on running for president and although it would have been a very difficult primary, I think I could have won,” he responded. “I don’t know, maybe not. But I thought I could have won.”

    “I had a lot of data and I was fairly confident that if I were the Democratic Party’s nominee, I had a better than even chance of being president,” he went on. “But do I regret not being president? Yes. I was the best qualified.” Biden has been open about his desire for the presidency since he won a Senate seat in 1972. However, the death of his son, Beau Biden, in May 2015 at the age of 46 after a battle with cancer, kept him from running in 2016.

    Biden later hinted to reporters that he might run for president in 2020.

    Joe Biden Regrets Not Running for President, He Admits | Variety
    I think he could have tipped the nomination to Bernie but, I don't think he could have won
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sassy View Post
    Listening to him on Stephen Colbert. I really love him as a person.
    Seems like a genuinely nice guy. And suspect he would have provided a better outcome than Hillary in 2016.

    But for 2020 he is just too old. Trump will be very vulnerable and the Democrats can do better than an 80 year old "guy you'd like to have a beer with".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    I want the shopping center for presidential candidates to include more than white men.
    I personally don't give a crap what color they are. I only care about the resume to which they are applying for the job

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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Greenbean View Post
    I personally don't give a crap what color they are. I only care about the resume to which they are applying for the job
    I don't believe you.

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