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    FISA 'wiretap' issued on CARTER PAGE of Trump team: Possible agent of a foreign power

    Let it rip! So many questions, so many ways to spin. I'll start out with the MOST obvious, WHY IN THE HELL WAS A TRUMP TEAM MEMBER TALKING TO RUSSIA last summer? A team member that used to be an American banker in Moscow?

    The FISA is said to have read, "A possible agent of a foreign power" sure as hell doesn't sound benign to me." How about you?

    Remember when PINNED DOWN he finally admitted to contact with (a)Russians in Cleveland? Was he parsing, did he say 'talked to' or 'met with' Russians in Cleveland? HE sure tried to parse his words with Chris Hayes didn't he?

    (Is this possibly the information NUNES went running to the WH with even though the WH might have given him the information 2 days before??? Nunes said that information wasn't about Russia).


    "During an interview with the Washington Post editorial page staff in
    March 2016,
    Trump identified Page, who had previously been an investment banker in Moscow, as a foreign policy adviser to his campaign..."


    FBI obtained FISA warrant to monitor former Trump adviser Carter Page

    What you need to know about former Trump adviser Carter Pagey Video2:20

    The FBI obtained a secret court order to monitor communications from former Trump adviser Carter Page in summer 2016, according to law enforcement and intelligence officials. (Sarah Parnass/The Washington Post)

    By Ellen Nakashima, Devlin Barrett and Adam Entous April 11 at 7:11 PM

    The FBI obtained a secret court order last summer to monitor the communications of an adviser to presidential candidate Donald Trump, part of an investigation into possible links between Russia and the campaign, law enforcement and other U.S. officials said.

    The FBI and the Justice Department obtained the warrant targeting Carter Pageís communications after convincing a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court judge that there was probable cause to believe Page was acting as an agent of a foreign power, in this case Russia, according to the officials.

    This is the clearest evidence so far that the FBI had reason to believe during the 2016 presidential campaign that a Trump campaign adviser was in touch with Russian agents. Such contacts are now at the center of an investigation into whether the campaign coordinated with the Russian government to swing the election in Trumpís favor.

    Page has not been accused of any crimes, and it is unclear whether the Justice Department might later seek charges against him or others in connection with Russiaís meddling in the 2016 presidential election. The counterintelligence investigation into Russian efforts to influence U.S. elections began in July, officials have said. Most such investigations donít result in criminal charges.

    The officials spoke about the court order on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss details of a counterintelligence probe....


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/fbi-obtained-fisa-warrant-to-monitor-former-trump-adviser-carter-page/2017/04/11/620192ea-1e0e-11e7-ad74-3a742a6e93a7_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_page710pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.d4f1b2 788aac


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    The RWNJ's want Russia to go away, good luck getting them to respond.
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    To Read this post quickly just note the bolded parts to get the general idea. The whole post gives you more detail if you want it.


    Carter Page, in a wide-ranging interview with Fox News, decried what he described as “propaganda” driven by a “false narrative” regarding his 2016 contacts with Russian officials, denying that he ever worked with them to help the campaign.

    “Absolutely not,” he said, laughing. “I did nothing that could even possibly be viewed as helping them in any way.”

    Asked whether he had worked with the Russians to hurt the Clinton campaign, he replied, “Absolutely not. In no way, shape or form.”

    Trump campaign announced his hiring as a foreign policy adviser in March 2016. He would stay with the Trump team until September 2016, but says he left because “these stories kept coming out based on the dodgy dossier.”
    “And so out of respect and out of doing what's best for the campaign, I thought it's best if I step aside and take a leave of absence at that at that point,” Page said.

    In July 2016 Page went to Moscow and gave a speech critical of the United States and other western countries for what he believes is a hypocritical focus on democratization and efforts to fight corruption.
    The oft-quoted line from the speech that was characterized as anti-American was, "Washington and other western capitals have impeded potential progress through their often hypocritical focus on ideas such democratization, inequality, corruption and regime change.”

    But Page told Fox News the line was taken out of context to make him look bad. “It was really about that concept of mutual respect and the way various countries including Russia, China and the United States, can work together for having a more constructive relationship primarily with the states of central Asia, such as Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan,” he said.


    Page said people in the Trump campaign were okay with [the trip],” Page said, “the word 'approved' … can be misleading that I was actually authorized to go and represent the campaign. It had nothing to do with the campaign. I was going as a private citizen.”

    “It was alleged that Page also had a secret meeting with Rosneft CEO Igor Sechin, reported to be a former KGB agent and close friend of Russian President Putin.” in the Trump dossier.

    Page even denied the dossier allegation that Manafort appointed him as a coordinator with the Russians: [/B][/B]“Totally false. Just like everything else about those allegations.”

    Page responds to that allegation saying, “I have never met Igor Sechin in my life,” Page countered. “Completely false. I've never met him in my entire life. I may have seen him at a conference once at a distance, but I've never shaken his hand.”

    Russian Ambassador Sergei Kislyak met with Page – acting as a go-between on behalf of then-Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort. Then, according to Schiff, “Just prior to the convention, the Republican Party platform is changed, removing a section that supports the provision of lethal defensive weapons to Ukraine, an action that would be contrary to Russian interests.”

    But Page told Herridge in the exclusive interview, “I was always very cautious. The only time, and you're the first person in the media that I'm saying this very directly to -- I said, ‘Hello,’ to him in passing, handed him my business card and never got a business card from him, as I did for many ambassadors in Cleveland during the Republican National Convention.”

    Page said the reason he never mentioned the passing encounter before was “out of respect for privacy for Ambassador Kislyak. And there were very direct rules that that was an off-the-record session.”

    Still, Page asserted that, “Nothing happened between me and Ambassador Kislyak. That I can assure you. I had no direct one-on-one material discussions with him in any way, shape or form.”


    Page argued, "liars and leakers in Washington and more broadly the political class in the United States actually had a much more negative impact,” in the U.S. election.

    Page said. “All of the discussions about the influence that the Russian government had on the U.S. election would actually pale in comparison to the much heavier influence that the U.S. government actually had in trying to hurt then-candidate Trump. That negative impact based on these complete lies has continued to put a dark shadow over the United States in general.”


    Ex-Trump adviser Carter Page rips 'false narrative' on Russia collusion | Fox News

    Oh, me thinks that this guy is either a useful idiot or he will break down during FBI questioning if he ever is put under any type of pressure.

    This is probably the only time in history someone will be happy to have been called a useful idiot officially FBI at the end of the day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cpicturetaker12 View Post
    Let it rip! So many questions, so many ways to spin. I'll start out with the MOST obvious, WHY IN THE HELL WAS A TRUMP TEAM MEMBER TALKING TO RUSSIA last summer? A team member that used to be an American banker in Moscow?

    The FISA is said to have read, "A possible agent of a foreign power" sure as hell doesn't sound benign to me." How about you?

    Remember when PINNED DOWN he finally admitted to contact with (a)Russians in Cleveland? Was he parsing, did he say 'talked to' or 'met with' Russians in Cleveland? HE sure tried to parse his words with Chris Hayes didn't he?

    (Is this possibly the information NUNES went running to the WH with even though the WH might have given him the information 2 days before??? Nunes said that information wasn't about Russia).


    "During an interview with the Washington Post editorial page staff in
    March 2016,
    Trump identified Page, who had previously been an investment banker in Moscow, as a foreign policy adviser to his campaign..."


    FBI obtained FISA warrant to monitor former Trump adviser Carter Page

    What you need to know about former Trump adviser Carter Pagey Video2:20

    The FBI obtained a secret court order to monitor communications from former Trump adviser Carter Page in summer 2016, according to law enforcement and intelligence officials. (Sarah Parnass/The Washington Post)

    By Ellen Nakashima, Devlin Barrett and Adam Entous April 11 at 7:11 PM

    The FBI obtained a secret court order last summer to monitor the communications of an adviser to presidential candidate Donald Trump, part of an investigation into possible links between Russia and the campaign, law enforcement and other U.S. officials said.

    The FBI and the Justice Department obtained the warrant targeting Carter Pageís communications after convincing a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court judge that there was probable cause to believe Page was acting as an agent of a foreign power, in this case Russia, according to the officials.

    This is the clearest evidence so far that the FBI had reason to believe during the 2016 presidential campaign that a Trump campaign adviser was in touch with Russian agents. Such contacts are now at the center of an investigation into whether the campaign coordinated with the Russian government to swing the election in Trumpís favor.

    Page has not been accused of any crimes, and it is unclear whether the Justice Department might later seek charges against him or others in connection with Russiaís meddling in the 2016 presidential election. The counterintelligence investigation into Russian efforts to influence U.S. elections began in July, officials have said. Most such investigations donít result in criminal charges.

    The officials spoke about the court order on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss details of a counterintelligence probe....


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/fbi-obtained-fisa-warrant-to-monitor-former-trump-adviser-carter-page/2017/04/11/620192ea-1e0e-11e7-ad74-3a742a6e93a7_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_page710pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.d4f1b2 788aac

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    It isn't illegal to talk to Russians. Seems like the ōbama Administration was trolling. Then we know what happened with the leaking of names.
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    And FISA warrants are rarely denied.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cpicturetaker12 View Post
    Let it rip! So many questions, so many ways to spin. I'll start out with the MOST obvious, WHY IN THE HELL WAS A TRUMP TEAM MEMBER TALKING TO RUSSIA last summer? A team member that used to be an American banker in Moscow?

    The FISA is said to have read, "A possible agent of a foreign power" sure as hell doesn't sound benign to me." How about you?

    Remember when PINNED DOWN he finally admitted to contact with (a)Russians in Cleveland? Was he parsing, did he say 'talked to' or 'met with' Russians in Cleveland? HE sure tried to parse his words with Chris Hayes didn't he?

    (Is this possibly the information NUNES went running to the WH with even though the WH might have given him the information 2 days before??? Nunes said that information wasn't about Russia).


    "During an interview with the Washington Post editorial page staff in
    March 2016,
    Trump identified Page, who had previously been an investment banker in Moscow, as a foreign policy adviser to his campaign..."


    FBI obtained FISA warrant to monitor former Trump adviser Carter Page

    What you need to know about former Trump adviser Carter Pagey Video2:20

    The FBI obtained a secret court order to monitor communications from former Trump adviser Carter Page in summer 2016, according to law enforcement and intelligence officials. (Sarah Parnass/The Washington Post)

    By Ellen Nakashima, Devlin Barrett and Adam Entous April 11 at 7:11 PM

    The FBI obtained a secret court order last summer to monitor the communications of an adviser to presidential candidate Donald Trump, part of an investigation into possible links between Russia and the campaign, law enforcement and other U.S. officials said.

    The FBI and the Justice Department obtained the warrant targeting Carter Page’s communications after convincing a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court judge that there was probable cause to believe Page was acting as an agent of a foreign power, in this case Russia, according to the officials.

    This is the clearest evidence so far that the FBI had reason to believe during the 2016 presidential campaign that a Trump campaign adviser was in touch with Russian agents. Such contacts are now at the center of an investigation into whether the campaign coordinated with the Russian government to swing the election in Trump’s favor.

    Page has not been accused of any crimes, and it is unclear whether the Justice Department might later seek charges against him or others in connection with Russia’s meddling in the 2016 presidential election. The counterintelligence investigation into Russian efforts to influence U.S. elections began in July, officials have said. Most such investigations don’t result in criminal charges.

    The officials spoke about the court order on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss details of a counterintelligence probe....


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/fbi-obtained-fisa-warrant-to-monitor-former-trump-adviser-carter-page/2017/04/11/620192ea-1e0e-11e7-ad74-3a742a6e93a7_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_page710pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.d4f1b2 788aac

    SO YOU LIED IN YOUR OTHER THREADS where you claimed THERE WAS NO SURVELANCE of anyone on the Trump team.... UH OH.

    OOPS

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    Quote Originally Posted by excalibur View Post
    And FISA warrants are rarely denied.
    how would you know that? The entire process is classified. Which means, someone is breaking the law by leaking this information. Risking their careers and prison. Most be awfully important to them that the public knows what's going on with the Trump cult and his connections to Russia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the watchman View Post
    how would you know that? The entire process is classified. Which means, someone is breaking the law by leaking this information. Risking their careers and prison. Most be awfully important to them that the public knows what's going on with the Trump and his connections to Russia.
    Your ignorance is showing again. It is readily available public knowledge.

    The FISA court rejects .03% of requests.


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