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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronwyn View Post
    No sanders never was a democrat, and traveling around with perez isn't going to make him one, nor will it help out democrats that are running. Liberals might want to rethink having sanders on the campaign trail as he may be harboring resentment since the dnc and hillary colluded to deny him a chance at the nomination. He might have an ulterior motive when you see him doing things like this.
    that's too funny. Bernie Sanders "may" harbor resentments against Democrats? Guess you don't know much about his history. His made a career out of being resentful of the Democrats. He lost the primary fair and square by millions of votes. The DNC did nothing to influence the vote. Whereas he held the nomination hostage in order to force concessions out of the DNC and HRC. He had ulterior motives for decade before he ran as a Democrat. He ran as a Democrat with ulterior motives. And there's no doubt he has ulterior motives now. Perez is touring with him because the party needs unity. Sander is dividing it with his ongoing shenanigans.
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    The majority of Dem primary voters must have been "in" on the collusion too.
    No, they were just steered wrong by their party. Then it came down to voting for hillary and they had no choice if they stuck to their liberal ways. Thank goodness it wasn't enough.
    Now you've got sanders out there campaigning with the dnc that screwed him over. Don't you think he might be a little resentful? Just look at what he's saying about the best hope the dems have had for a win, and he's dogging the guy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronwyn View Post
    No, they were just steered wrong by their party. Then it came down to voting for hillary and they had no choice if they stuck to their liberal ways. Thank goodness it wasn't enough.
    Now you've got sanders out there campaigning with the dnc that screwed him over. Don't you think he might be a little resentful? Just look at what he's saying about the best hope the dems have had for a win, and he's dogging the guy?
    you've got that backwards. Sanders is the one that screwed the DNC over. Of course, he's going to go and a campaign with Perez. The DNC made him who he is. It's his "victory tour".

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    you've got that backwards. Sanders is the one that screwed the DNC over. Of course, he's going to go and a campaign with Perez. The DNC made him who he is. It's his "victory tour".
    No the dnc screwed sanders according to their own emails. They got caught colluding with hillary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronwyn View Post
    No the dnc screwed sanders according to their own emails. They got caught colluding with hillary.
    they let him run as a Democrat even though he really isn't one - didn't they? I say again. Nothing the DNC did effected the election results. Sanders got them back by holding the nomination hostage long after it was clear he was going to lose. The resulting rift in the party may well have given Trump the edge he needed to win.

    Meanwhile, Sanders is doing his "victory tour". Hillary Clinton was the nominee. Yet, Sanders prances around the country pretending to be the leader of a party he doesn't even belong to. The Republican's are in control of congress as well as the WH. Sanders is much more politically relevant than if HRC had won the election. Tell me how things didn't work out better for Sanders than the DNC in this deal? Things couldn't have worked out better for him if he had planned it all this way. His life long dreams of transforming the Democrat party in his own image is coming true at long last. He never really wanted to be president. But he sure as hell wanted to be able to force the Dems into submission.

    Did I mention that Sanders isn't even a Democrat?
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    well this is kinda interesting.

    ANTI-CORRUPTION

    Jon is the CEO of an award-winning company that specializes in hard-hitting anti-corruption investigations for international news organizations.

    Since 2013, Jon has led more than 20 investigations of political corruption, organized crime, and armed conflict around the world.

    Jonís teams have investigated and exposed dozens of corrupt politicians and judges, the theft and corrupt sale of U.S. taxpayer-funded aid intended for starving children and HIV patients, quack doctors who kill and mutilate women, and high-level organized criminals.

    As a senior national security staffer in Congress, Jon led investigations of malfeasance by defense and intelligence contractors.

    In this era of ďfake newsĒ and ďalternative facts,Ē we need leaders who will back their claims with real evidence and call out politicians who lie for short-term gain.

    Jon believes passionately in integrity and transparency in government and he will use his real-world experience to root out and expose corruption and fraud in Washington.

    Jon will introduce legislation to reform campaign finance laws and reduce the toxic and corrupt impact of money in politics. He is opposed to the Citizens United decision allowing unchecked, anonymous money in politics.
    https://electjon.com/priorities/#criminal-justice

    He sounds like a younger version of Bernie. Only he appears to have gotten a lot more done to fight political corruption than Bernie has.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the watchman View Post
    they let him run as a Democrat even though he really isn't one - didn't they? I say again. Nothing the DNC did effected the election results. Sanders got them back by holding the nomination hostage long after it was clear he was going to lose. The resulting rift in the party may well have given Trump the edge he needed to win.

    Meanwhile, Sanders is doing his "victory tour". Hillary Clinton was the nominee. Yet, Sanders prances around the country pretending to be the leader of a party he doesn't even belong to. The Republican's are in control of congress as well as the WH. Sanders is much more politically relevant than if HRC had won the election. Tell me how things didn't work out better for Sanders than the DNC in this deal? Things couldn't have worked out better for him if he had planned it all this way. His life long dreams of transforming the Democrat party in his own image is coming true at long last. He never really wanted to be president. But he sure as hell wanted to be able to force the Dems into submission.

    Did I mention that Sanders isn't even a Democrat?
    Without substantial support, how could Bernie hold the nomination hostage?

    If he had enough support to hold the nomination hostage, then his voice, on behalf of his supporters, deserved to be heard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by labrea View Post
    Without substantial support, how could Bernie hold the nomination hostage?

    If he had enough support to hold the nomination hostage, then his voice, on behalf of his supporters, deserved to be heard.
    really? Didn't Hilary Clinton supporters "deserve to be heard" when she conceded to Obama? She was substantially closer to wining the primary than Sanders and had millions of more supporters. The time for Sanders and his supporter to be heard was during debates, during the campaign and at the voting booth. Hillary had a hell of a lot more support than Sanders did when she conceded the race to Obama. HRC had already agreed to adopt some of Sanders ideas and policies into the platform. There was no need for him to hold off conceding until he got his way.
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    and now he's meddling in a election that doesn't concern him criticizing a guy for not being progressive enough for him. When the guy has actually accomplished a lot of the things he just runs his mouth about. How would he like it if some fake Independent meddled in his election from afar, trying to turn progressive against him?

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    Tell us at what was the date Bill Clinton left office from his second term after being impeached?
    Clinton was never impeached.the level headed Senate said,No!"

    The fools like Gingrich, Scarborough,Livingston, DeLay,Henry Hyde were behind the witc h hunt.

    All,later proven to be adulterers. Gingrich forced out of Congress,had a mistress,Livingston,exposed by Larry Flint had multiple affairs. Scarborough had a dead girl in his office,left to spend time with his family,divorced 2 months later, now has a second divorce behind him. Hot tub DeLay. Henry Hyde had a 40 year old younthful indiscretion that destroyed a marriage.

    Then let us not forget good old,lovable Denny Hastert,who is rotting in prison for paying off his teen age victim.

    Aren't you glad you lied about Clinton? He was never,never charged with rape. His affair was with an adult woman. Of course he was a womanizer, but not the worst.
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