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    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    If I succeed in becoming a celebrity via talent in the media, political or performing arts, I have to deal with it.
    At the moment yes, you do have to deal with it. But you shouldn't have to. That's my point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy View Post
    No, you would just need a new law - a revised interpretation on the limits of the free press.
    NYT v. Sullivan and the decades of precedent following it would supercede any such law. It'd be a tall order to pass it under that kind of curtain to begin with --- who wants to spend political capital on a bill that the courts are going to use for toilet paper? --- but if it somehow got through, you'd see a preliminary injunction as soon as it left the president's desk. Guaranteed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    NYT v. Sullivan and the decades of precedent following it would supercede any such law. It'd be a tall order to pass it under that kind of curtain to begin with --- who wants to spend political capital on a bill that the courts are going to use for toilet paper? --- but if it somehow got through, you'd see a preliminary injunction as soon as it left the president's desk. Guaranteed.
    Like I said, I disagree. Our media has reached critical mass and I believe a majority of Americans are fed up with the irresponsibility and obvious bias of our press.

    If you report something untrue about someone that harms their reputation - you should be able to get sued just like the rest of us can. And I believe there is a good chance such a law would hold up in court if the right argument is presented. And if not - then we should start working on appointing judges who would uphold it.

    Freedom of the Press should not mean you can print what ever lies you want about someone without consequences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy View Post
    Like I said, I disagree. Our media has reached critical mass and I believe a majority of Americans are fed up with the irresponsibility and obvious bias of our press.

    If you report something untrue about someone that harms their reputation - you should be able to get sued just like the rest of us can.
    "A majority" wouldn't cut it. You'd need overwhelming support just to pass a law, and 3/4 of the states to override this precedent which is as much as part of First Amedment case law at this point as McDonald's and cheeseburgers.

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    If these women have a case then let them take it to the court and prove it. Otherwise - they have no business feeding their allegations to the press so they can use freedom of the press to paint their enemies guilty without ever having to step inside a court room.

    The guilt of someone should be determined in a court of law. Not on cable news.
    As far as I know all of the woman's cases have passed the statute of limitations. Trump had every right to sue them if they were lying, he threatened to but NADA NOTHING. The lady that is suing him is suing not for the assault but for calling her a liar during the election. She has every right to and currently is pursuing it. The thing is Trump is saying that she can not sue him while he is sitting in the Presidents chair. To bad he is wrong because Bill Clinton was sued much to the delight of the Republicans. Karma is a bitch. HA HA. The thing is that if he is called to the stand and says he didn't do what the lady is claiming and she can prove he did-GOTCHA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eve1 View Post
    As far as I know all of the woman's cases have passed the statute of limitations.
    Well then that's their fault for waiting so long to pursue charges then.

    Don't you find it awfully convenient that they just suddenly remembered they were sexually assaulted or raped after he became President?

    Give me a break.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    "A majority" wouldn't cut it. You'd need overwhelming support just to pass a law, and 3/4 of the states to override this precedent which is as much as part of First Amedment case law at this point as McDonald's and cheeseburgers.
    All you would need is a majority on the court to uphold the law as constitutional. And considering how reasonable such a law would be, especially in this climate
    where our press has become so irresponsible and gaudy - not to mention the accession of the internet - where every one and his mother are suddenly part of the media.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy View Post
    Freedom of the Press should not mean you can print what ever lies you want about someone without consequences.
    Yeah, that's why libel law exists. But if the claim is true, even in part, or if the media outlet makes immediate effort to correct the record, or if it's simply an honest mistake, there can be no libel. That one goes back to pre-Revolution, actually.

    With celebrities, as of NYT v. Sullivan, the standard is higher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy View Post
    All you would need is a majority on the court to uphold the law as constitutional.
    The court doesn't override precedent as old as NYT v. Sullivan.

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    The piece quoted “one prominent and current male on-air host” who mused lecherously about the gender dynamic of the TV news work environment: “At the producing level, it’s all young women,” he said, “99 percent of whom have no chance of being on TV. They like being in TV and they like powerful men.
    How reminiscent is this to Trump acknowledgement of creeping back stage at the junior Miss pageants letching half naked young girls.

    Don't tell me White Privilege does not exist. They got away with it for years.
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