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    Diet sodas raise risk of dementia and stroke

    People who drink diet sodas daily have three times the risk of stroke and dementia compared to people who drink one less than once a week, researchers reported Thursday.

    It's yet another piece of evidence that diet drinks are not a healthy alternative to sugary drinks, and suggests that people need to limit both, doctors said. While the findings do not prove that diet drinks damage brains, they support other studies that show people who drink them frequently tend to have poorer health.

    "We found that those people who were consuming diet soda on a daily basis were three times as likely to develop both stroke and dementia within the next 10 years as compared to those who did not consume diet soda," Pase told NBC News. "Our study provides further evidence to link consumption of artificially sweetened beverages with the risk of stroke," the team wrote. "To our knowledge, our study is the first to report an association between daily intake of artificially sweetened soft drink and an increased risk of both all-cause dementia and dementia because of Alzheimer's disease."

    Diet Sodas Raise Risk of Dementia and Stroke, Study Finds - NBC News
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    Aluminum has been known to be a factor in dementia, many colas are sold in aluminum cans.

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    I'm betting its the NUTRASWEET (Aspartame).
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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    People who drink diet sodas daily have three times the risk of stroke and dementia compared to people who drink one less than once a week, researchers reported Thursday.

    It's yet another piece of evidence that diet drinks are not a healthy alternative to sugary drinks, and suggests that people need to limit both, doctors said. While the findings do not prove that diet drinks damage brains, they support other studies that show people who drink them frequently tend to have poorer health.

    "We found that those people who were consuming diet soda on a daily basis were three times as likely to develop both stroke and dementia within the next 10 years as compared to those who did not consume diet soda," Pase told NBC News. "Our study provides further evidence to link consumption of artificially sweetened beverages with the risk of stroke," the team wrote. "To our knowledge, our study is the first to report an association between daily intake of artificially sweetened soft drink and an increased risk of both all-cause dementia and dementia because of Alzheimer's disease."

    Diet Sodas Raise Risk of Dementia and Stroke, Study Finds - NBC News
    One might reasonably ask, of course, who is drinking diet soda every day? Aren't such people likely to have other bad habits? I don't drink diet soda. You know why? Because I'm not fat. I don't eat a bunch of shit food and not exercise.

    So maybe it's that regular exercise and reasonably good and healthy diet that's helping out the non-diet-soda-drinkers.

    I would need to see the data drilled down a little more. How does the diet soda drinking group compare with a similar group that drinks regular soda every day? I'll bet they're pretty fucked up, too. I'll bet both populations are far worse off than people who drink neither one, or who moderate either.

    That said, 3-to-1 is a pretty steep correlation. Definitely worth looking into. But I have my suspicions of the non-sugar that they call sugar in regular soda, too. You know what I'm talking about. That high fructose corn syrup shit.

    If you like Coke, get ahold of some of that Mexican coke, with the cane sugar in it. Drink only that for a little while, then have a regular one. I'm telling you, that HFCS shit tastes just as artificial and horrible as the diet sodas do once you give yourself a chance to get used to the sugar.

    Not to mention, that first taste of a proper, old school, sugar Coke will cause you to have a flashback to the 70's when that's how they made that shit.

    The story of New Coke and how they bamboozled people with "Classic Coke" that was nothing of the sort is an amazing tale of marketing.
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    Checked the article to see if they controlled for weight, and I didn't see that as a listed factor.

    I did see this, "Many may have switched to diet sodas because they had a health scare, for instance, including obesity and diabetes — both of which can raise the risk of stroke and dementia."

    Also this, "Pase noted that the risks are still low and people who love their daily fix of diet soda do not need to panic. 'Even if someone is three times as likely to develop stroke or dementia, it is by no means a certain fate,' Pase said. 'In our study, three percent of the people had a new stroke and five percent developed dementia, so we're still talking about a small number of people developing either stroke or dementia.'"



    Yay for coffee:

    "So what can people drink? Water is always a good option, doctors agree. And of course, there's coffee. Studies show that people who drink regular, moderate amounts of coffee are less likely to die from a range of diseases, from diabetes to heart disease."
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    Makes sense, putting synthetic chemicals in ones body over time? Cant be good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    Makes sense, putting synthetic chemicals in ones body over time? Cant be good.
    Especially when it failed approval 3 times, until someone from the relevant company joined the FDA... then it got approved because they removed the monkeys that died from the safety study.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmanmcfly View Post
    Especially when it failed approval 3 times, until someone from the relevant company joined the FDA... then it got approved because they removed the monkeys that died from the safety study.
    Classic. Sounds like a fascinating story and I do not doubt it. When I ask for a link, I just mean because I'll bet it's an interesting story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by splansing View Post
    One might reasonably ask, of course, who is drinking diet soda every day? Aren't such people likely to have other bad habits? I don't drink diet soda. You know why? Because I'm not fat. I don't eat a bunch of shit food and not exercise.

    So maybe it's that regular exercise and reasonably good and healthy diet that's helping out the non-diet-soda-drinkers.

    I would need to see the data drilled down a little more. How does the diet soda drinking group compare with a similar group that drinks regular soda every day? I'll bet they're pretty fucked up, too. I'll bet both populations are far worse off than people who drink neither one, or who moderate either.

    That said, 3-to-1 is a pretty steep correlation. Definitely worth looking into. But I have my suspicions of the non-sugar that they call sugar in regular soda, too. You know what I'm talking about. That high fructose corn syrup shit.

    If you like Coke, get ahold of some of that Mexican coke, with the cane sugar in it. Drink only that for a little while, then have a regular one. I'm telling you, that HFCS shit tastes just as artificial and horrible as the diet sodas do once you give yourself a chance to get used to the sugar.

    Not to mention, that first taste of a proper, old school, sugar Coke will cause you to have a flashback to the 70's when that's how they made that shit.

    The story of New Coke and how they bamboozled people with "Classic Coke" that was nothing of the sort is an amazing tale of marketing.
    That's the $64,000 question for at least 2 decades--REMEMBER aspartame has only been on the market for about 3 decades. (Ronald Reagan's FDA approved for a 'political chit' called in by Donald Rumsfeld). I even wonder if any long term studies have been made yet. So yes, what are the other habits of DIET COKE drinkers? A good study would control for that as well. Again, the data is still relatively new. But remember, the FDA received more COMPLAINTS from aspartame than all 'food' additives every introduced to the market. (Well, that was the case about 6 or 8 years ago).

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