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    Quote Originally Posted by Bronwyn View Post
    DACA recipients can only travel outside the U.S. if they apply for and receive advanced parole before they travel.*Generally advanced parole is only granted for humanitarian reasons, educational, or employment reasons. If someone leaves the U.S. without advanced parole being granted or before a decision has been made on their deferred action application, they will not be permitted back into the United States.

    This is why he was sent back to the Mexico side. He gave up his status by leaving the country without prior application and trying to return illegally. He broke his own status. He also had 3 oe more misdemeanor offenses which by themselves separately are not enough to deny DACA status, but viewed as continuing like the traffic offenses along with the illegal entry, his status will be revoked as it should be.
    What you've said here is not in evidence. He was removed from the US on Feb 17, never having left the US intentionally; he got no due process, so they mistakenly removed him because they (apparently) didn't know about his DACA status. Then he tried to get back into the US over a fence on Feb 19 and was removed again. That's the time you appear to think he was removed for the first time.

    You can't kick someone out of the country wrongfully and then claim the right to kick them out under the law because they left the country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THOR View Post
    How much money will be spent on this case and who is paying for it? And people think illegals don't cost us a fortune.
    It's true. Our justice system is expensive, with all those inconvenient guarantees and protections. All those silly amendments that Madison wrote--the First, Fourth, and Fifth amendments....and then the 14th...OMG...they are all really expensive.

    We could have a much more efficient justice system if we just did it more like Egypt or Iran or Turkey.

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    Lets make this clear, DACA is NOT a protected status. DACA only authorizes the person to work while waiting for their deportation hearing. It is NOT a legal status in any way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AttusBlack View Post
    Lets make this clear, DACA is NOT a protected status. DACA only authorizes the person to work while waiting for their deportation hearing. It is NOT a legal status in any way.
    Let's get this straight: no one said it was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AttusBlack View Post
    Lets make this clear, DACA is NOT a protected status. DACA only authorizes the person to work while waiting for their deportation hearing. It is NOT a legal status in any way.
    It doesn't HAVE to be, for sure. But it's the stated police of the Trump administration that they will not deport people covered under DACA, which means it IS protected status, until the Trump administration says it isn't. And they INSIST they haven't changed the policy. This incident either a change in policy or a violation of that policy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
    What you've said here is not in evidence. He was removed from the US on Feb 17, never having left the US intentionally; he got no due process, so they mistakenly removed him because they (apparently) didn't know about his DACA status. Then he tried to get back into the US over a fence on Feb 19 and was removed again. That's the time you appear to think he was removed for the first time.

    You can't kick someone out of the country wrongfully and then claim the right to kick them out under the law because they left the country.
    He has provided no evidence that he was removed on the 17th. All he has is his claim, which for all we know could be his own imagination. Unless he was charged with an infamous crime he doesn't get due process. If they caught him on the 19th as DHS claims and returned him pretty much immediately he is considered a return and not a deportation. Returns are for those caught at the border and returned back across within 48 hours. How was he kicked out of the country wrongfully? He had no ID to prove he was living here, no documents showing his status, nothing. He was sent back from where they saw him come from via climbing a fence from one side of the border to the other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
    It doesn't HAVE to be, for sure. But it's the stated police of the Trump administration that they will not deport people covered under DACA, which means it IS protected status, until the Trump administration says it isn't. And they INSIST they haven't changed the policy. This incident either a change in policy or a violation of that policy.
    Trump never stated he would not deport DACA recipients. He simply said they were not a priority. If this person was caught violating his status, just like any number of people that have in the past of which Obama deported more than 350 DACA recipients for violations, doesn't make or even suggest DACA is a protected status of any sort. This incident is this kids own fault for not keeping his required documents on his person at all times as required by law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweettee View Post
    Let's get this straight: no one said it was.
    LMFAO try reading the OP.

    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    You have got to love the irony of this...

    Gonzalo Curiel, the judge Donald Trump attacked as a candidate because of his “Mexican heritage,” will hear another case involving the president — this time, a lawsuit filed against his administration by a 23-year-old undocumented immigrant who was recently deported. Juan Manuel Montes, who had protected status under the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, also known as the Dreamers program, filed a complaint on Tuesday arguing that government officials who deported him to Mexico failed to offer him documents outlining why his deportation was legal.

    Curiel, the judge assigned the case, previously oversaw a pair of California lawsuits against Trump University, which eventually resulted in a settlement.

    Prompting widespread accusations of racism, Trump lashed out at the judge, claiming that he was unable to hear the case fairly because he was “Mexican.” Curiel, whose parents were Mexican immigrants, was born in Indiana.

    Judge attacked by Trump to oversee 'Dreamer' deportation lawsuit - POLITICO

    Wonder if MM is smart enough to keep his mouth shut this time.

    And WTH? DACA kids were NOT supposed to be deported.
    Now, do you care to try again? SMFH
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