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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutenough View Post
    Just start reading one of the Prophets like Jeremiah and see what he said centuries before something happened he spoke of.
    Yirmiyahu was not talking about what you think he was talking about. And that is because you do not know what you are talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    And that is why you cannot prove it true, or even that G-d exists. Proof requires the scientific method, and you cannot use that on religion.
    I don't need to prove its true. You told me so

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    Yirmiyahu was not talking about what you think he was talking about. And that is because you do not know what you are talking about.
    I realize you want to ignore what he said, but what he said has come to pass over 2000 years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutenough View Post
    I don't need to prove its true.
    You said you can prove it, so yes you do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutenough View Post
    I realize you want to ignore what he said....
    Neither I nor any other religious Jews ignore what Yirmiyahu said. We know what he was talking about, and you do not.

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    ... but what he said has come to pass over 2000 years ago.
    No, it did not. You are making that up, just as you make up things about Judaism and Jewish texts all the time. We know our stuff better than you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutenough View Post
    Just start reading one of the Prophets like Jeremiah and see what he said centuries before something happened he spoke of. Only the Holy Spirit knows what is going to happen before it happens. This is how we know its from God
    So, if the Holy Spirit knows what's going to happen before it happens, everything that happens is predestined. If everything is predestined, there is no such thing as free will.

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    I will add that there is nothing wrong with having faith, or beliefs. Just be aware that a belief is not necessarily fact. I have no problem with someone who says "I cannot prove it with scientific methods, but I believe in my heart that it is true." It's when they try to sell it as indisputable fact that I object.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutenough View Post
    What happened to the Puppet Master? You are speaking of God, that's a new one
    To the Christian Dominionist such as yourself, Ken Ham and James Dobson, God is the puppet master. They think in the beginning, organic life didn't evolve from cellular colonies, but were instead magically poofed out of thin air, fully formed by a supernatural puppet master in the sky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutenough View Post
    Just start reading one of the Prophets like Jeremiah and see what he said centuries before something happened he spoke of. Only the Holy Spirit knows what is going to happen before it happens. This is how we know its from God
    Those words in the Holy Bible were carefully edited and spliced together from each other. The Christians did this at the Council of Nicea in A.D. 325.

    Also, you can cherry pick literally any event throughout world history to justify a prophecy. You are just reading history and Shoehorning your dogma into it. The Marxists do the same thing when they read about labor history and the Wisconsin uprising.

    According to a biblical prophecy, Christ would be resurrected, and that never happened. There isn't even any reliable evidence that Christ was a real person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    You said you can prove it, so yes you do.
    I would never try to prove it to you because you have an interest in harming religion, namely Christianity

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