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    Quote Originally Posted by leekohler2 View Post
    How many times a day do you think aboutenough condemns it?
    Based on his join date and postcount, I figure about 14.5 times per day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DebateDrone View Post
    You are correct on both counts. It is less popular to discriminate against homosexuals these days and it is less popular to allow for the claim of religion rights to discriminate against anyone these days.
    Both groups have rights, but Gay rights is more popular because its fashionable to protect them more and punish religious rights because they believe marriage is between one man and one woman. Liberal judges are siding with the group they helped get protections, plus it helps drive their agenda like abortion does
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    @aboutenough - Do you honestly think that a day goes by in which hundreds - if not thousands of U.S. college students don't use Facebook (or other social media) to condemn homosexuality? It happens all the time. It probably happened several times in the seconds it took me to write this post. Contrary to your tinfoil-tinted view of the world, these U.S. students are not in danger of being expelled.
    They are and have been if they are training to be a Social Worker. Don't you think its discrimination to drop a student from a College that offers Social Work training because they are Christians that believe marriage is between one man and one woman. If the college could do that, whats to keep an employer from not hiring someone that believes marriage is only between one man and one woman?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    Based on his join date and postcount, I figure about 14.5 times per day.
    probably about half as much as Liberals condemn Christians for believing marriage is between one man and one woman only.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutenough View Post
    They are and have been if they are training to be a Social Worker. Don't you think its discrimination to drop a student from a College that offers Social Work training because they are Christians that believe marriage is between one man and one woman. If the college could do that, whats to keep an employer from not hiring someone that believes marriage is only between one man and one woman?
    Of course being expelled from the college would be discrimination. But in the U.S., it doesn't really happen that often. College students say all sorts of stupid shit online regularly. There may be social repercussions - but that's the price of free speech. But students in the U.S. are not routinely expelled for sharing unpopular opinions online.

    However, it's very possible that a person reviewing candidates for a social work position will not hire someone who shares such opinions, out of concern that the person will be incapable of providing the requisite level of social services for gay-parented families. This is a legal practice, so smart people will not share opinions online if it can compromise their future employment opportunities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    Of course being expelled from the college would be discrimination. But in the U.S., it doesn't really happen that often. College students say all sorts of stupid shit online regularly. There may be social repercussions - but that's the price of free speech. But students in the U.S. are not routinely expelled for sharing unpopular opinions online.

    However, it's very possible that a person reviewing candidates for a social work position will not hire someone who shares such opinions, out of concern that the person will be incapable of providing the requisite level of social services for gay-parented families. This is a legal practice, so smart people will not share opinions online if it can compromise their future employment opportunities.
    Or, such a person could hold such opinions, as long as it did not affect their professional decisions. However, knowing religious people- they usually feel the need to inflict their religious rules on those who do not share their beliefs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by leekohler2 View Post
    Or, such a person could hold such opinions, as long as it did not affect their professional decisions. However, knowing religious people- they usually feel the need to inflict their religious rules on those who do not share their beliefs.
    Sure - but you'll have to count on the potential employer on being willing to take such a gamble. And it's unlikely that the employer will bring up the subject during an interview, so most employers will simply pass on the candidate.

    Smart move = Ensure that Google can't pair you up with your controversial opinions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutenough View Post


    The London High Court ruled in favor of a Christian student who was expelled from his university for calling homosexuality a sin in a private Facebook post.

    Felix Ngole, 39, was kicked out of Sheffield University last year after expressing support for traditional marriage on his own personal Facebook page. The university called him "unfit to practice" in his profession after he said, "the Bible and God identify homosexuality as a sin."

    The father of four from Cameroon did not go down without a fight and sued the university. Ngole argued he was unfairly stopped from completing his degree plan. His case was rejected repeatedly by lower courts until the high court finally ruled in his favor.

    "Students with orthodox Christian views are being told that they aren't fit to practice," says Chief Executive Andrea Minichiello Williams from the Christian Legal Centre which represented Ngole during his case. "For religious people who believe now what most people used to believe, it can be a bar to office."http://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/cwn/2017/april/victory-is-the-lords-christian-student-wins-big-in-lawsuit-what-he-did-to-get-expelled
    6407-BARCLAY6407-BARCLAYAnti-gay marriage social work student loses appeal
    This happened in England and the court sided with the student and they were right. A person studying Social Work should not be denied a career because of their religion. This has happened in America before and its not right to discriminate towards a person because of their religious beliefs. Missouri State booted student from counseling program over Christian beliefs, says lawsuit | Fox News
    How will this individual handle cases that involve GLBT people? I don't see how he can possibly be an adequate social worker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    Sure - but you'll have to count on the potential employer on being willing to take such a gamble. And it's unlikely that the employer will bring up the subject during an interview, so most employers will simply pass on the candidate.

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    Exactly, this could also open up the employer to lawsuits if the employee acted on such beliefs to deny a LGBT client their legal rights or benefits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by leekohler2 View Post
    Exactly, this could also open up the employer to lawsuits if the employee acted on such beliefs to deny a LGBT client their legal rights or benefits.
    So, the result is, this college must continue to allow this student to prepare for a job he cannot get, or if he does, cannot succeed at.

    How is this a victory for this student?

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