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    The artist should just say she 'identifies' as aboriginal. problem solved.

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    An interesting issue, and something I think is a slippery slope because all culture has been appropriated from the beginning of time to where you can't pinpoint it's origins with any certainty.







    White Painter Loses Art Show Over Cultural Appropriation Debate

    My problems with this thinking are mostly that to begin with, there's no way to tell what someone is or isn't influenced by, and I also think that unless you force everyone to get DNA tests to prove they're a member of a "culture" you can't say who can and can't adopt a style of painting or music or whatever.



    Not to mention, cultures themselves have borrowed from other cultures:



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    thoughts?


    yeah.... the professionally offended will always find something to be offended and outraged over. I find it amusing they want multiculturalism and "melting pots" but when it comes right down to it... they really dont.
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    Quote Originally Posted by syrenn View Post
    thoughts?


    yeah.... the professionally offended will always find something to be offended and outraged over. I find it amusing they want multiculturalism and "melting pots" but when it comes right down to it... they really dont.
    'The Melting Pot' is passť. long ago replaced with 'celebrating diversity'. It all stems from Identity/Victim-Oppressor politics. It's more difficult to pander to victimhood and gin up hate for 'oppressors' when we identify first as a citizen.

    Everybody has to be made to believe everybody's gettin' over on everybody else, or it all falls apart.
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    'The Melting Pot' is passť. long ago replaced with 'celebrating diversity'. It all stems from Identity/Victim-Oppressor politics.
    Hardly. Not everyone can be a white Anglo-Saxon Protestant. But even more, not everyone should have to be. There never really was a melting pot, much as we liked to say so; someone was always left out, whether on account of skin color, religion, or some other background issue.
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    Hardly. Not everyone can be a white Anglo-Saxon Protestant. But even more, not everyone should have to be. There never really was a melting pot, much as we liked to say so; someone was always left out, whether on account of skin color, religion, or some other background issue.
    in my opinion "melting pot" is also about the fluidity of cultures. A back and fort, give and take of the best of it all. All cultures melted into one.
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    Like pizza with pineapple, or Chicken Tikka Masala. Dishes unrecognisable in their original countries...
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    Where do you see a melting pot?

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    Where do you see a melting pot?

    had sushi?
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    in my opinion "melting pot" is also about the fluidity of cultures. A back and fort, give and take of the best of it all. All cultures melted into one.
    To a certain degree, sure. But the expectation was that everyone would seek to emulate certain qualities and behaviors called "American" that did not allow for this. Rather, everyone would come to America and be American, leaving all else behind. It did not work very well, really. With Jews, we have to remain observant of Jewish law, and can only "melt" to a limited degree.
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    First nation artists around the world are trying to control the usage of their techniques and subject matter.

    "Any art that's made in the shadow of colonialism is going to be sensitive," says co-curator Fiona Salmon. "There are always questions people want to ask about who is benefiting from that connection with an Aboriginal person or Aboriginal place."

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