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    I'd venture every city of any size has a fondue restaurant called The Melting Pot. Tallahassee's is iconic... still owned by the founding family, still very popular, and where, almost 40 years ago, I took my first 'real' (one boy, one girl, brand new drivers license, Jeep) date.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    To a certain degree, sure. But the expectation was that everyone would seek to emulate certain qualities and behaviors called "American" that did not allow for this. Rather, everyone would come to America and be American, leaving all else behind. It did not work very well, really. With Jews, we have to remain observant of Jewish law, and can only "melt" to a limited degree.
    groups not wanting to "melt in" is totally different then being absorbed into the pot.

    I make GREAT matzo ball soup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by syrenn View Post
    in my opinion "melting pot" is also about the fluidity of cultures. A back and fort, give and take of the best of it all. All cultures melted into one.
    Into one? Just one? That would be boring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blues63 View Post
    First nation artists around the world are trying to control the usage of their techniques and subject matter.

    "Any art that's made in the shadow of colonialism is going to be sensitive," says co-curator Fiona Salmon. "There are always questions people want to ask about who is benefiting from that connection with an Aboriginal person or Aboriginal place."

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    Interesting article. I think to some degree the marketplace can influence this issue by the fact I would guess if you bought art created in Aboriginal style by an Aboriginal artist, it would be worth more. I don't know if that's the case, but if so it would level the playing field somewhat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by webrockk View Post
    I'd venture every city of any size has a fondue restaurant called The Melting Pot. Tallahassee's is iconic... still owned by the founding family, still very popular, and where, almost 40 years ago, I took my first 'real' (one boy, one girl, brand new drivers license, Jeep) date.
    People still eat fondue? Yuck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blueneck View Post
    People still eat fondue? Yuck.
    I like it. cheese and meat, followed by melted chocolate and fruit? what are ya, a commie?
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    Toronto artist and Anishinabe art form?

    We don't do "melting pot" here. It's not a thing. Hasn't been since the 60s.

    We go by the "mosaic" analogy.

    I have my culture, you have yours, everyone else has theirs, and we all live and work and party and serve together - making a whole that is pleasing but each individual remains an individual.

    Particularly First Nations who are technically separate nations.

    I still think it's wrong to shut down this artist. The only thing that would be wrong is if she was calling it "Anishinabe paintings" which would be pretty presumptious. But even then - just ask her not to. Don't close her show.
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    Quote Originally Posted by webrockk View Post
    I like it. cheese and meat, followed by melted chocolate and fruit? what are ya, a commie?
    Could be Jewish (can't eat meat & cheese together)....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    To a certain degree, sure. But the expectation was that everyone would seek to emulate certain qualities and behaviors called "American" that did not allow for this. Rather, everyone would come to America and be American, leaving all else behind. It did not work very well, really. With Jews, we have to remain observant of Jewish law, and can only "melt" to a limited degree.
    I remember reading about Americanization committees--A-S women who went into Polish and Hungarian immigrant homes and told them how to maintain an "American" kitchen. Too much garlic and paprika was not good.

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    What about the Uncle Remus stories? They were compiled and written down by a white guy but from what I understand they were old slave stories. Was Joel Chandler Harris an appropriator or did he honor voices that wouldn't have been heard otherwise?

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