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    The Boy Scouts of America are just an extension of the Christian church. Become a lemming or leave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutenough View Post
    The Freedom From Religion Foundation is unveiling a freethought badge to reward young nonbelievers and challenge the Boy Scouts of America's discrimination against the nonreligious. The badge, featuring a red "A" based on a symbol of atheism and agnosticism popularized by distinguished scientist and atheist Richard Dawkins, is being issued in collaboration with the Richard Dawkins Foundation for Reason & Science.
    The Boy Scouts of America formally discriminates against nonreligious boys and their families, officially excluding atheists, agnostics and nonbelievers. Currently, the organization maintains "that no member can grow into the best kind of citizen without recognizing his obligation to God."
    "The Freedom From Religion Foundation maintains instead that no one who discriminates against the nonreligious can grow into the best kind of citizen," says FFRF co-founder Annie Laurie Gaylor, who is co-president of FFRF with her husband Dan Barker.
    "It's what you do — not what you believe — that makes you a good person," adds Barker, a former evangelical minister who is also co-founder of The Clergy Project, a support group for ministers who lose their faith.
    FFRF, at the urging of its member Richard Kirschman, has produced a badge similar to the Boy Scouts' merit badges, which are typically sewn on uniforms or sashes.
    Scouts who wish to earn this badge are asked to help disprove the group's misguided claim that nonbelievers cannot be good citizens. The requirements, paralleling typical merit badge requirements, ask Scouts to learn about secularism and the rich history of dissent from religion.
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    Interesting that an Organization that claims to believe in nothing is trying give badges to the Boy Scouts for believing in nothing. Now the FFRF is claiming Bigotry against a group that believes in nothing and stands for nothing. I guess they now stand for "Free Thinking", whatever that is, maybe they are finally standing for something. Anyway the scouts are the brunt of this nonsense because they stand for God and a moral lifestyle.
    Mr. Enough,

    Once again, atheist prove they really are scumbags. It's not enough that they hate people of faith, but now they want them not to practice their religion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    ... Once again, atheist prove they really are scumbags. It's not enough that they hate people of faith, but now they want them not to practice their religion.
    Where in the article does it suggest "wanting people of faith not to practice their religions?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    Where in the article does it suggest "wanting people of faith not to practice their religions?"
    Mr. Djinn,

    The boy scouts was started as, and is very much today, an organization with religious leanings. Atheists, being the empty souled people that they are, want everybody to share in their misery, are insisting that the boy scouts changes to suit them.

    Hope that fact helps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    Mr. Djinn,

    The boy scouts was started as, and is very much today, an organization with religious leanings. Atheists, being the empty souled people that they are, want everybody to share in their misery, are insisting that the boy scouts changes to suit them.

    Hope that fact helps.
    Nonsense. Atheists have no objection to religious groups, provided that they don't masquerade as secular groups in order to reap financial benefits.

    So, where in the article does it suggest "wanting people of faith not to practice their religions?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    Nonsense. Atheists have no objection to religious groups, provided that they don't masquerade as secular groups in order to reap financial benefits.

    So, where in the article does it suggest "wanting people of faith not to practice their religions?"
    Mr. Djinn,

    The boy scouts are a private organization that does not masquerade as a secular group.

    Whoa, did I just prove everything you said in this thread was wrong!

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    Penn & Teller on the Boy Scouts in this episode:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...n_4_.282006.29

    Some of their videos that I believe are from (or are) the episode:

    https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...rce=opensearch

    Probably their biggest complaint, really, is that BSA gets money from the government, making it a government-sponsored religious group. While I agree a private religious group should have freedom of religion, it should not be receiving money from the government.

    For that matter, it should have no government support at all and should not be anywhere in the U.S. Code. But see 36 U.S.C. § 30901 et seq.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    Mr. Djinn,

    The boy scouts are a private organization that does not masquerade as a secular group.

    Whoa, did I just prove everything you said in this thread was wrong!
    Oh, they're private? My mistake... I was under the impression that they received public funding to the tune of several million taxpayer dollars annually. But that COULDN'T be right - not if they're a "private organization," right?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winkler_v._Rumsfeld

    If I wasn't helping to subsidize this "private organization," I'd gladly withdraw all of my objections.

    So, where in the article does it suggest "wanting people of faith not to practice their religions?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly5 View Post
    The Boy Scouts of America are just an extension of the Christian church. Become a lemming or leave.
    The first Scout camp was held on Brownsea Island, in Poole Harbour, a few miles from where I'm sitting. Lord Baden Powell founded the organisation to be independent of any single faith, while recognising that spirituality and a belief in a "higher power" were desirable.

    BP's gravestone bears no religious symbols, but there is a small circle with a dot in the middle, the scout trail sign for "gone home".
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